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UNION# OLB578/05
IN THE MATTER OF AN ARBITRATION
Under
THE CROWN EMPLOYEES COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ACT
Before
THE GRIEVANCE SETTLEMENT BOARD
BETWEEN
Ontario Public Service Employees Union
(Cahill) Union
- and -
The Crown in Right of Ontario
(Liquor Control Board of Ontario) Employer
BEFORE Nimal V. Dissanayake Vice-Chair
FOR THE UNION Kourosh Farrokhzad
Barrister and Solicitor
FOR THE EMPLOYER Dan Palayew
Ogilvy Renault LLP
Barristers and Solicitors
HEARING June 20, 2006.
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Decision
The grievor, Mr. Patrick Cahill filed a discharge grievance dated November 19, 2003. I
conducted a hearing on multiple days and issued a decision dated August 11, 2005. Suffice it to
state that the grievor was reinstated subject to strict conditions. One of the conditions imposed
was as follows:
The grievor must maintain a discipline free record for a period of two years from the
date of his reinstatement. Should he engage in misconduct in that period which
gives cause for any discipline, he shall be subject to immediate discharge. At any
arbitration the only issue would be whether or not he engaged in misconduct that
give just cause for any discipline.
In compliance with the award the grievor was reinstated in the position of manager of a
LCBO store in Cardinal, Ontario. He started working in this capacity on September 13, 2005,
and worked 8 shifts without incident. October 8th, 2005, was the Saturday of the Thanksgiving
long weekend, one of the busiest days in the year for LCBO stores. The grievor was scheduled to
report to work at 9:00 a.m. and get the store ready for opening at 10:00 a.m.. The grievor did not
report to work until approximately 10:50 a.m.. The store, which was scheduled to open at 10:00
a.m., did not open until 10:47 a.m..
The employer determined that the grievor’s lateness on October 8, 2005 constituted
misconduct that gave cause for discipline, and therefore violated the condition of reinstatement
set out above. The grievor was therefore discharged, and he grieved.
The Board commenced hearings into the merits of this grievance on January 9, 2006.
One of the witnesses called by the employer was Ms. Karen Richardson-Norris, the District
Manager. Following her testimony, union counsel advised the Board that he wished to move that
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the discipline in question, i.e. the grievor’s second dismissal, was void ab initio because Ms.
Norris-Richardson’s testimony had disclosed that article 26.3 of the collective agreement with
regard to union representation had not been complied with. The parties agreed that the Board
should suspend the hearing of the merits of the grievance, and rule on the motion.
The motion with respect to article 26.3 was argued on June 20, 2006.
That article reads:
26.3 An employee who is required to attend a meeting for the purpose of
discussing a matter which may result in disciplinary action being taken
against the employee shall be made aware of the purpose of the meeting
and his/her right to Union Representation in advance of the meeting.
The employee shall be entitled to have a Union representative at such
meeting provided this does not result in undue delay.
In Re Bell, 683/01 (Dissanayake) I described article 26.3 as follows:
This provision confers upon an employee required to attend a meeting falling
within its ambit, three distinct rights. First, the employee must be made aware, in
advance, of the purpose of the meeting. Second, the employee must be made aware,
in advance, of his/her right to union representation at the meeting. Third, the
employee is entitled to have a union representative at such meeting provided that
does not result in undue delay.
In Re Simpson, 1469/01 (Dissanayake) at p. 11, I also observed:
It is now settled law that the rights conferred by article 26.3 are substantive, and not
procedural and that as a result where there is a breach of the provision, the resulting
remedy is a declaration that the discipline is void ab initio. See, Re LaHay, 809/94
(Gorsky); Re Pedneault, 1568/98 (Briggs); Re Franssen, (supra) and Re
Xanthopoulos, 1372/01 (Abramsky).
The parties are not in disagreement with the principles set out in those decisions. The
union’s claim is that a telephone conversation that took place on October 8, 2005, between the
grievor and Ms. Karen Richardson-Norris, the District Manager, came within the ambit of the
words “Where an employee is required to attend a meeting for the purpose of discussing a matter
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which may result in disciplinary action being taken against the employee” and therefore
triggered an entitlement to the three distinct rights set out in article 26.3. The employer concedes
that none of the three article 26.3 rights as described in Re Bell were accorded to the grievor on
October 8, 2005. The only issue in dispute, therefore, is whether or not a meeting within the
ambit of article 26.3 took place that day.
The facts in that regard material to the article 26.3 motion are not in dispute. As noted,
the grievor was scheduled that day to report to work at 9:00 a.m., to do the necessary
preparations and open the store at 10:00 a.m.. A casual employee, Ms. Dominique Reid was
scheduled to start at 1:00 p.m.. Ms. Reid testified that around 10:30-10:35 a.m. the owner of a
deli shop located in the same mall as the liquor store came to her home and informed her that the
liquor store had not opened yet, and that customers were gathered outside the entrance. Ms. Reid
was at first alarmed that she had been scheduled to open the store that day, but upon reflection
realized that it was the grievor’s responsibility. He called the grievor’s home. When the grievor
answered, she asked him if he planned to open the store. He asked her what the time was. When
she replied that it was past 10:30 a.m., he responded that he had not heard the alarm, and stated
that he would go right over and open the store. Ms. Reid, however, rushed over, still in her
pyjamas, and opened the store shortly before the grievor’s arrival at 10:50 a.m..
In the meantime, the District Manager, Ms. Richardson-Norris had left home around
9:00 a.m. that day. Upon her return at about 1:00 p.m. she found a voice-mail from Ms. Kathy
Kirken, an employee at the Iroquois LCBO store, to the effect that the Iroquois store was
unusually busy that day, and that customers were telling her that they drove over there because
the Cardinal LCBO store was closed. Ms. Kirken’s voice-mail also stated that she had called the
Cardinal store but no one was answering.
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Ms. Richardson-Norris testified that as soon as she had retrieved the voice-mail, she
called the Cardinal store “to find out what had happened”. The grievor answered. The
conversation that followed is the “meeting”, the union claims, triggered article 26.3.
The grievor testified that the telephone call lasted 20 to 30 seconds. During cross-
examination, he agreed that during the call three questions were asked by Ms. Richardson-
Norris. The first question was “How are you?” The grievor replied, “I am fine. Thank you.”
Next, Ms. Richardson-Norris asked, “What happened this morning?” The grievor replied that it
was too long to even begin to explain, but in short he had not heard the alarm and had slept in.
Then Ms. Richardson-Morris asked, “Is the store open now?” When the grievor replied that it
was, she hung up.
Based on these facts the union submits that the telephone conversation that took place
between the District Manager and the grievor was a meeting within the meaning of article 26.3.
The union referred me to Re Xanthopoulos 1372/01 (Abramsky). In that case, near the
end of his shift, the grievor was asked to report to the front office where several members of
management proceeded to question the grievor in the presence of a union representative about
“opening of cases”. The union argued that the discipline that followed was void ab initio
because the employer had not complied with the requirement in article 26.3 that “the employee
shall be made aware of the purpose of the meeting and his/her right to union representation in
advance of the meeting”.
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One of the issues the Board in Re Xanthopoulos had to determine was whether the
meeting in question was “for the purpose of discussing a matter which may result in disciplinary
action”, within the meaning of article 26.3. The Board determined that it was, on the grounds
that the meeting was part of the employer’s investigation into certain events on October 22, 2001
where the grievor had allegedly removed a gift flask from a case of liquor, which was contrary to
policy. Union counsel submitted that the present case was similar because the telephone call was
made as part of an investigation into the grievor’s culpability relating to the late store opening.
Counsel referred to the testimony by Ms. Richardson-Norris that she expected the grievor to
“fess up”, i.e. to admit his fault and apologize for the store not opening on time, after the grievor
had explained that he had slept through the alarm, as indicative of that investigative purpose of
the call.
Union counsel argued that when the District Manager asked the grievor “what
happened this morning”, there was a real possibility that the grievor may respond with
inculpatory statements. Counsel referred me to the following passage at P. 10 in Re Simpson
(supra):
It is apparent that the employer’s position that where a meeting was only for the
purpose of delivering a NOID, article 26.3 has no application was rejected by the
Board in Re Franssen. It does not matter whether Mr. Poulin intended to discuss any
particular subject with the grievor at the meeting or whether the grievor in fact made
any inculpatory statements. The intention of the article is to ensure that the grievor is
not put in a vulnerable situation with the possibility that inculpatory statements may
be elicited or volunteered, unless the grievor is afforded the rights stipulated in article
26.3.
(Emphasis original)
The employer’s submission was that the telephone call was simply the District
Manager’s administrative response to an operational concern she faced, namely, that one of the
liquor stores within her district may have not opened on one of the busiest days of the year.
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Counsel pointed to the evidence that when Ms. Richardson-Norris retrieved the voice-mail at
1:00 p.m. she had little information besides the hearsay message from an employee in a different
store that customers were telling her that the Cardinal store was not open. She had no idea why
the store had not opened at 10:00 a.m. as scheduled, or whether it had opened at all. It was, in
the circumstances, logical that she would call the Cardinal store as she did. When the grievor
answered, she greeted him saying, “How are you?” As District Manager, she had a right and an
obligation to find out the reason why the store had not opened on time. So she asked, “What
happened this morning?” When the grievor stated that he had slept through the alarm, she did
not pursue that. She moved on to ask whether the store was open, which was the concern which
caused her to make the call. As soon as the grievor replied in the affirmative, she hung up,
without asking the grievor anything about his lateness.
On the particular facts before me, I conclude that the telephone conversation was not a
meeting within the ambit of article 26.3. The facts in the cases relied upon by the union are
clearly distinguishable from the facts before me. In Re Xanthopoulos (supra) at pp. 14-15 the
Board wrote:
The evidence clearly reveals that the October 31, 2001 was part of the Employer’s
investigation into the events of October 22, 2001. At the time the grievor was
required to attend the meeting, the Employer had a videotape of him removing a gift
flask, a matter that certainly could lead to disciplinary action. If there were any
doubt about that, the posting of October 26, 2001 states that “anyone caught
removing any LCBO property, whether it be alcoholic in nature or not, from the
warehouse, will be immediately terminated and all evidence turned over to the
Durham Regional Police for further action.”
On the evidence before me, the conclusion is inescapable that management
intended their meeting with the grievor to be an opportunity to further their
investigation, by questioning him about his interaction with cases, generally, as well
as specifically about October 22, 2001. The questions asked were to obtain
information which they would consider – and, in fact, did consider – in deciding
whether disciplinary action should be taken against him. The discharge letter of
November 13, 2001 leaves no doubt that the Employer relied on the grievor’s
statements of October 31, 2001 to conclude that he should be terminated.
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Under the facts of this case, I conclude that the meeting of October 31, 2001 was
“for the purpose of discussing a matter which may result in disciplinary action being
taken against the employee…” within the meaning of Article 26.3 of the collective
agreement.
It is clear that in that case the Board had concluded that meeting in question was part of
the employer’s investigation into the employee’s conduct with regard to the removal of the gift
flask, as part of its decision whether or not to discipline the employee.
Re Simpson (supra), is one of many decisions of the Board, where it has been held that
where the employer meets with an employee to personally hand over a Notice of Intended
Discipline” (NOID) article 26.3 must be complied with. The reason again is that, by the time the
employer decides to issue a NOID, it must necessarily have turned its mind to the possible
disciplining of the employee. Therefore, the meeting has “a disciplinary” purpose.
In direct contrast, in the present case, the District Manager had no idea as to why the
store had not opened. When asked in cross-examination what the purpose of her telephone call
was, she replied “To ensure that the store is open”. She testified that she wanted to know why
the store had not opened and to take whatever steps needed to ensure that it is opened. She stated
that a liquor store may not open for many reasons, and gave the example of a power failure. She
was calling the Cardinal store and did not know who would be answering the call. She testified
that Ms. Reid could have answered because she had come on shift at 1:00 p.m..
The critical evidence is that when she asked what happened, and the grievor explained
that he had slept in, Ms. Richardson-Norris did not pursue that. If she had proceeded to question
the grievor, for example, as to why he did not hear the alarm or why he had not called in, it could
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have been argued that at that point the conversation had become “a meeting for the purpose of
discussing a matter which may result in disciplinary action.” However, on the evidence in this
case, as soon as the grievor mentioned his sleeping in, Ms. Richardson-Norris moved away from
that subject and turned to her concern at the time, that is, to ensure that the store is open. As
soon as she got the assurance that the store had in fact opened, she ended the conversation.
While article 26.3 has been interpreted by the Board quite broadly, it must also be
interpreted sensibly so as not to preclude normal interaction between managers and employees.
If not, managers would not be able to manage the operations. It would do disservice to both
managers and employees. The parties would not have intended such a result when they
negotiated article 26.3. To illustrate, a manager hears a commotion and rushes to the scene. She
observes an employee lying on the ground, apparently injured. She asks, “what happened?”. It is
possible that one of the employees present at the scene may make a statement in response, that
may implicate himself. However, it would be absurd to hold that the manager was not entitled to
ask what had happened, without first complying with article 26.3.
In Re Canada Safeway Ltd, (1992) 34 L.A.C. (4th) 401 (McPherson) the collective
agreement provided as follows:
When an employee’s work performance is such that it may lead to discipline or
discharge and is the subject of discussion between the employee and the Employer,
the Union Steward shall be present.
One of the issues for determination was whether the fact that a manager, upon meeting
the grievor on a stairway, asked him “why are you late”, triggered the foregoing provision. At
pp/. 411-412 the Board wrote:
The issue we were faced with was: was the question asked by Kolba on the
stairway a discussion which may have led to discipline as contemplated by art. 11. it
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is our feeling that such questions are frequently asked in the work place and we
cannot think that art. 11 contemplates them as discussions such that a union steward
would be required. If that were the case any question asked by an employer of an
employee relative to work performance could be construed as maybe leading to
discipline. We are not inclined to view the question itself as a discussion such that
the subject, while work performance, may lead to discipline. In this case, had the
employee’s answer been: I am not late, I was talking to the shop steward or my car
had a flat tire, or I got caught in a traffic jam, or my daughter had to go to the
hospital or an unlimited number of possible answers, that would either have been the
end of it or a “discussion” which may lead to discipline as contemplated by art. 11
would have ensued. In fact that is what happened, a meeting ensued, the subject of
which may have and did lead to discipline. That “discussion” required compliance
with art. 11. We believe that is the intent of the article. To put it another way, we do
not think that an insubordinate response to a question which turns it in to a discussion
of work performance that may lead to discipline is the basis to construe art. 11 as
being applicable at the time of the original work performance question. This is
particularly so when we do not know if the original question may have led to
discipline. Surely, that was not what was contemplated by the parties when they
agreed to the article.
In Canada Safeway, where the question “Why are you late?” was asked, any
conceivable reply would have to do with the employee himself, because the question was about
his own lateness. In the present case, even that is not the case. The question “what happened
this morning?” could reasonably be expected to elicit an answer having nothing to do with the
grievor. For example, the reason for the store not opening could have been a power failure, a fire
in the store, an overnight break-in at the store, or a flooding. The District Manager was entitled
to find out the reason. At the time she could not have known whether the store had in fact
opened late, and if so, whether the late opening had anything to do with the grievor.
Second, and most important, once the District Manager got the answer from the grievor,
that he had slept in, unlike in Canada Safeway “a discussion which may lead to discipline” (in
the instant case “a meeting that may result in disciplinary action) did not ensue. On the contrary,
the District Manager dropped that subject completely and turned to her concern at the time,
namely whether the store was open.
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The disciplinary process was launched by the District Manager only subsequently,
following the obtaining of statements from Ms. Reid and Ms. Kirken. The evidence suggests
that the NOID issued to the grievor on October 12, 2005 was based on this information in that
the NOID makes no reference whatsoever to the telephone conversation in question. The
evidence supports the conclusion that the telephone call was not part of an investigation into the
grievor’s culpability. I do not agree with the union’s argument that the fact that Ms. Richardson-
Norris was expecting the grievor to take responsibility and apologize points to the contrary. The
lack of an apology was a thought in Ms. Richardson-Norris’ mind, after the grievor had stated
that he had slept in. She felt that it would have been normal for an employee who had slept in
and failed to open a liquor store on time to have apologized and she testified to that effect. The
fact that she had that thought, however, does not suggest that she was investigating the grievor at
the time she asked the questions.
For all of the foregoing reasons I find that the telephone call in question did not fall
within the ambit of article 26.3. The union’s motion is dismissed. The hearing into the merits of
the instant grievance shall continue as scheduled.
Dated this 5th day of July, 2006 at Toronto, Ontario
Nimal Dissanayake
Vice-Chairperson