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PU~L~G SEHViCE
APPEAL BOARDS
'~-h~'-C~N EMPLOYEES CoLLECTIV~ B~RGAINING ACT
Before
- 9HE GRIEV~CE SETTLEMENT ~OA~
BETWEEN
CUPE 767 (Yates)
Grievor
- and -
'The Cro~n in Right off'Ontario
(Ministry of Housing)
Employer
BEFORe: W..Kaplan Vice-Chairperson
E. Seymour Member ,.
R. Scott Member
FOR THE R. Carnovale
GRIEVOR CUPE National Representative
FOR THE A. Tarasuk
EMPLOYER Counsel
Smith, Lyons, Torrance, Stevenson & MaYer
Barristers & Solicitors
HEARING: February 10, 1993
May 12, 1993
June 26, 27, 1995
July 21, 1995
IntrodUction
By a grievance dated December 4, 1~91, Micha~.ei Yates, grieves that he was
unj. ustly dismissed,from his.position as a Labourer in the Maintenance
Department of the Metro Toro@to .Housing AUthority. The grievance first'
proceeded to a hearing, i.n February 1993. A number of early c, ontinuation
dates were scheduled, and.. then, at the request. of the parties, adjourned.
Eventually, the matter was brought back on for a hearing.
In brief, the employer takes the positio?, that the griever was dismissed for
just cause given his' activit)_es' on the e.vening of Thursday, November 2_1,
1991. The union takes.the pos!tiqn that a number Of the events 'relied on by
the employer were not onlyiunpr?ven, but denied, and that, in any event', the
griever, an ~lcoholic, .has .taken steps to deal with his disease and should, in
the circumstances .of this case, be reinstated to e'mployment. As the
following will make .clear,. the employer and union_l~ave rathe~ different
Understandings~of the events that took place. .
The Employe?'s Case
While the emp!oyer called a.number o.f. witnesses .in support of its case, at
the end of the day.the even. ts that. it relies on are fairly straigh'tforward.
On November. 21, 199t, the employer held a charity casino evening at l~he
Ulster ~emori. al Hall on Gerrar~d Street East. The grievor, arrived at
approximately 6:30 p.m., and his arrival was n0ticeci' bY Ms.. Ter~i Lyn Piette,
· a volunteer, who, along with her mother, was in' charge of selling tickets
and chips for liquor and gambling. Ms. Piette noticed the griever because he
was obviously intoxicated; he was red-faced and smelied like liquor.
According to Ms. Piette, the grievor, upon arriving, spread out t~is wallet
and said that it would be an early night as he only had approxirnately $70.
and the admission ticket cost $15. Over the course of the evening, the
grievor made many trips to the cash table. On his third trip to the cash
table, he literally emptied his pockets, 'and asked Ms. Piette to give him
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whatever he could get with the money he had left. At the grievor's
suggestion, some small change he had left over was set aside to be donated
to United Way.
A short while later the grievor returned to the cash table. This was
remarkable to Iris. Pierre for two reasons. First of all, she thought that he
was out of cash. Second, the grievor had, until that point, been wearing his
winter coat."This had made him stand out as no one else was wearing a coat
as the temperature in the room was comfortable. This time he was holding
his coat, and he asked where he could buy some film for his camera, having
previously deposited it with Ms. Piette and her mother for safekeeping. The
grievor was directed to a local store, ahd it was also suggested to him that
he wear his coat as it was cold outside, The grievor replied that he did not
need to do so. When he returned, he was wearing his coat, had more money
to buy chips and tickets, and did not appear to have purchased any film.
After this trip, the grievor returned several more times for tickets and
chips. At no time did he cash in any of his chips. On his t~hird trip, he again
literally emptied out his pockets. Ms. Pierre continued to observe the
grievor throughout the evening, and.did so because of his behaviour, and
because a member of management, Mr..Clem Pinto, told her to watch him as
he was a "troublemaker."
Later on 'in the e~;ening, some ~kits were presente~t, and Ms, Piette observed
the grievor leaving the 'cl'oakroom where a number of th'e"performers had
~hanged c~iothe:s. The griev0r, n0~V. carrying I~iS"cCj'a't' for 'th~ s'~cOnd' time,
inquired where he might exchange 'some American money. When. he came
bac~,' he was wearing his coat and had some more 'mor~ey'td buy tickets and
chips. At the end of the evening, when the grievor was asked to leave, he
cashed in his remaining Chips for appr0ximal~elY ~;17. "
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M~. Piett~;s evidence' was corroborate~l 'by that of-her-mother, Ms. Patricia
F;iette, Who also testified in these proceedings, and' wh(~'witnessed, among
Other things, the gri~v0.r entering and leaving the cloak~o0m-with his coat
over h~s arm. Ms, Patricia Piette ~dvised' the gri'~v6¢, as' h~ Was leaving the
Hall, to weaf his coa~ as it wa~'cold 'outside. 'The g~evo~ rebuCfed her
~uggesti°ns,-but Whe~ ~ keturned he was wearing'his ~0'a~ ~hic~'he kept
on. Moreover, althOugh the grievd~' had twice indicated'bY em'p~ying his
~ckets that he had ~0 more money, on both occasions afte~ returning to the
Rail,' he.had more money' with which'to buy t~ckets agd chips.~ Although the-
gdev~r 'only had sixty or'{eventy dollars when he first arrived, MS. Patricia
Pierre estimated that he s~nt $120 to $140 over the course bf' the evening.
No one else in attendance spent nearly as much.
Mr, Daniel Dumas, a member of management, alSo testified on behalf of the
e~Ployef. Mr. Duma's,'who had'not previously knowh the grievor; became
aware of him because he Was working'that evening as the bartender,, and the
grievor came to the bar to bu~ drinks. ' The. grievdr was hoticeable for a
n~mber of reasons. He alone :ih t~e'~all was. wearing"hjS wi~ter coat. Also,
'~he grievor Rad some cuts on his :mouth that appea~ed to'have been caused
'~y a fight. While Mr.' 'Dumas believed that the grievor was' ~nde~ the
influence of alcohol when he served him drinks, he did not, however, believe
that the grievor was intoxicated, and testified that this is why he
continued to serve him. Mid-evening, Mr. Dumas was advised that several
purses had been stolen. Then, a short time later, Mr. Dumas could hear the
grievor arguing with Mr. 8ill Williams, the local union president.
Mr. Dumas testified that the grievor called Mr. Williams, one of the
organizers of the event, a "piece of shit.'' The grievor also told Mr. Williams
that he was going to "fuck him up." There were approximately sixty people
in the room, and there was lots of noise from the music and talking.
Nevertheless, Mr. Dumas could overhear this incident, and after hearing the
grievor's remarks to Mr. Williams, he intervened and asked the grievor to
leave. The ~rievor refused the request and questioned Mr. Dumas's authority
to even make it. The grievor then sat down and insisted on staying until the
"50-50" draw. Ms. Patricia Piette, who was observing these events,
testified that Mr. Dumas spoke respectfully to the grievor. She was also
surprised by the grievor's stated reason for remaining as he had not bought
a "50-50" ticket. Ms. Patricia Piette advised Mr. Dumas of this, and he again
asked the cjrievor to leave.
At that point, according to Mr. Dumas, the grievor stood up and told him that
he was going to take him outside and "beat the shit out of him." At the
same time as he was saying this, however, the grievor began to make his
way towards the door, with Mr. Dumas following from behind. The event
was held on the second floor of Ulster Hall, and when the two men reached
the top landing, the grievor turned around and said "I'm going to stab you,
you motherfucker" and begin swinging towards Mr. Dumas. Mr. Dumas, who
recounted these events, testified that he could see something metallic and
shiny'J in the grievOr's hand that looked like a knife.~Acco~dingly. Mr: Dumas
grabbed the grievor's hand and attempted to hold on'~t'o it.' ~ The' two men
struggled, and eventually Mr. Dumas pinned the grievor to the stairs. Ms.
Patricia Pierre, hearing the commotion, went to' investigate'and could
clearly' see the g~iev0r Pinned down 6n the stairs holding'{~ ~,'nif~ Mr. Dumas
cried out'for someone to c I the'polici~, ~nd someone else came and took
the knife from th;9 griev0r, s ha'n&' A~l~er it aPPeared that~h(~ grievor was
subdued, M~.:~'Um~;s released him. Shortly:'thereafter ~the police arrived and
took 'the grievo~ away.' "
One of the police 'officers whO' ~e~p0nded was Officer JoSeph Ol'szevski who
testified in these proceedings. He took possession of a small folding pocket
kr~ife, i(:Je~:ti~ied' as b(Jl°nging to'the grievor, ~nd 'also tooE'the gdevor into
cUs~°dy'. V~hen extended, the knife blade was approximately'?_ .1/2 inches
long. 'According' t'o Officer Olszevski, although int'oxicated, the grievor
cooperated With him When'placed under arrest'. '
in 'addit~ion~ tO ~h'~ e~ents 6otlined "'; '
above, the empioy6r' als~ ~elied, in
s. upport of the discl~arge, 'on 'evidende indicating, in the employer's ·
sub~nisSion, that t'h'e'griev'~ was responsible for' two thefts. It'"was
determined mid-evening, and prior'to the altercation 'involving the grievor,
'that'two purses Were missing. Th~ pa~ties agreed 't.hat it woUid.'not be
necessary to 'call the two Women Wl~0;~had their 'l~urses s"tolen 'to testify
tha~ ~money was missing 'a'ft~r the purses were found 5y'a' member of
manageme~,'k4r. Clem Pinto,~-and another employee', wh° conducted a search
for '~he PurS% outside df the Hall. 'One of tl~e purses had contained a
substantial arr{'0Un~ of American money~ On his Way back from finding the
purses, Mr.'Pinto'observed the gr-i'evor' being held down on the stairs by Mr.
Dumas. He could also see, and later took possession of, what he took to be
the grievor'.s knife.
The Ui~ion's Case
The gdevor testified on his own behalf, and claimed the protection of the
Canada Evidence Act for each question asked and each answer given.
According to the grievor, approximately ten days prior to the events
outlined in this award he was robbed by 'some teenagers who smashed him
in the face with a skateboard. As a result of this assault, the grievor lost
two front teeth and required 'seventeen stitches. He was also put on various
medications to assist him with pain.
The grievor told the Board that his pain ,was significant and, as a result of
it, he decided not to go into work on Thursday, November 21, 1991. instead,
first thing that morning, the grievor, who is an alcoholic, took some pain
killers and then began drinking. He consumed approximately twelve beers
by noon. He then began to hit the bars, and had at least twelve more beers
that afternoon. This was not entirely unusual as the grievor would
frequently drink twelve beers in the morning and more in the afternoon.
Indeed, he testified that he often did so on the job. On November 21st,
however, the drinking was combined with drugs. Eventually, the grievor
made his way to Ulster Hall, where he testified he spent the evening
drinking and gambling. He arrived with more than $100, and over the course
of the evening, both won and lost, eventually, he testified, breaking even.
At some point during the evening, the grievor became aware that Mr. Dumas
was following him; he did not understand the reason for him doing so, and
did not like it. The grievor could recall having a profane conversation with
Mr. Williams, and testified that the two men regularly spoke to each other
in a profane fashion. In',any event,.lvlr.'Dum'as then asked him to leave, and
would not ailbw i~im to remain behin~i to await the'outcome bf'the ".50-50"
draw.' I~s~adi' M~. t~umas'es'corte'd him'to the stair's and,"Completely
~ unprovo~.ed,' i~Unch~ci him ih the head.' 'While the gri~v°r does car~y a Pocket
knife to assist him at work,' he did ~ot'open his I~if'e"°n Nbvember 21st,
" explaining that he cOUld do[ do so beca'use he has. bad'nails. Eater. that
:' e~ening", the 9rievor 'was a'rre~e~ll' it was his knife tha't' was given' to the
police" office~[ He eventually Plea:deal g~Jil;~y to common assault, was
· sentenced to thirty hours'of community work, 'and one year's probation.
The grievor was asked' a number of questions about his recollection of
events. In bribf," f. he grievor remembered'very little' about what took place.
'He was, he t~stified, completely stoned. 'He.remembered a'lady screaming
that her purse"h'ad been stolen; the grievo'r, however, thought that this was
· 6ne of ;d~e skits' paYt of the evening's entertainmer{t", and so laughed. At
· :' no point, did he steal any money, 'nor~:ould he~'tecail ever going into the
cloak~o°m. Why would he do so, he asked? After all, I~e' was already wearing
his coat. He received-so'me"American· money ih change when he went to
purchase some chips. AcCording to th~ grievor, he' received. this money from
k4r. Pin~°:'who, for some reason, has always had it in fbr him. Indeed, the
grief;or testified that both Messrs. Pinto and' Dumas were lying When they
, gave-evidenc'e in ~hese Proceeding~J SPecifically, Mr. 'Pinto; wh0'denied ever
ma~ing~(~hange, and ~iving the grievor'American mc~ey, was not telling the
'truth. 'Mr. DUmas· was' lyingl 'the grievor testified, when 'he said that the
g~ievor assaulted him instead of admitting that he, Mr: Dumas, had hit the
grievo¢ first. Moreover, the'two Piette witnesses were'also Lintruthful.
The grievor testified that he only left the Hall once, to go and-buy some
cigarettes and film.
In the aftermath of these events the grievor completed a program put on by
Concern, a substance abuse agency. As part of that program, the grievor
understands some of the underlying problems that led to his substance
abuse. He received an 87% on his final exam. From time to time, the grievor
attends AA meetings, but testified that he has not found this type of
activity helpful. Recently the grievor has been working for a family friend,
and a reference letter was introduced into evidence. The grievor testified
that he is sorry that everything happened explaining that he was "in the
wrong place at the wrong time." The grievor testified that he has learned
from his mistake.
Mr. Paul Weitzell testified as a union witness under subpoena. Mr. Weitzeli
knew the gri'evor and, from time to time, socialized with him. He knew the
grievor was intoxicated on November ?_1st, and spent some time with him
over the course of the evening. His real involvement in this affair came
when he accompanied Mr. Pinto outside to search for the missing purses,
which were successfully found. On his way back into the Hall, he came
across the grievor and Mr. Dumas in the throes of a fight. While Mr. Weitzell
had a somewhat different version of events as to where the two men were
in the stairway at certain relevant times, given the passage of time, we
attach no relevance to some immaterial contradictions in Mr. Weitzell's
account as compared to that of Mr. Dumas. What is important for our
purposes is that ~lr. Weitzell testified that after the grievor was
restrained, a process that Mr. Weitzell assisted with, he dropped a closed
pocket knife which Mr. Weitzell secured and which was later turned over to
the authorities.
The evidence having been completed, the matter turned to argumeni:~'.
Employer-Argument ....
in the emPi0yor's submission,'it' had more than established just cause for
discharge in thi~ case. 'Ve* simPly, ~he e~'p~6~er t~ok the po~itioh~ that the
evidence established that the.~devor ha0 stolen two purses, and had also
at~cked a member o~ mana0emen~ With a knife. in these ~ircUmStances,
which counsoi revlewod in somo the empl0ye~~ was entitled to
diScharfle an employee, and urfled th~' ~oard to uphold that discharge.
E~ploger counsel alsO'attired, in support bf this Submi~si°fi, th~a~ the
~rievor was not a believ'abl'0~ witness. "c0~nsel noted that that ;riev°r's
memo~ was SeleCtiVe,- to 'say the'iea~, an0'he contr~te0 the
evidence with t'hat of all the witnesses' called to testify on gehaff of the
employer. ~either ~iette witness, counse. I pointed out, had any interest
this matter one way 0~~ r~ B~her, and counsel su~flested that b~th of these
Y'cr lhe s~me could also be said
witnesses were completel edi i. ":
respect to Messrs. Dumas and ~into. Counsel note~ that ~hey ~testi~ie
strai~ht~'om'ard and c~edible.fashion, and argued tfiat their" ~
evidence should
~e be[ievbd beCause it'was ~he truth. Counsel' also took the position ~hat
~here were no mitiOatin~ factors 6f any real Si~n'ificanCe in this case, and
that K would not, therefore, b0 'an'appropriate one for the 8oard to exercise
its judsdicUon to reinstate tho ~rievor, evefi~'°~' std~t' terms.
conclusion, and for the fore~oin~ reasons, counsel asked that the ~doVance
In the union's submission, some discipline might have' been ~appropdate in
this case, but discharge was clearly an excessive response. Mr. Carnovale
pointed out that the evidence of theft was circumstantial at best and failed
to meet the "clear and convincing" standard required in cases of this kind.
The fact of the matter was that no one ever saw the grievor steal a purse,
and there was nothing tying the grievor to those thefts. A person, Mr.
Carnova~e argued, should not lose their job because they happened to prefer
wearing their winter coat. With respect to the evidence of the alleged
assault, Mr. Carnovale noted that there were a number of contrac~ictions in
the evidence, and these contradictions, re~ating in large part to what
happened on the stairs, erodecl the employer's case because the type of
probative evidence necessary to support a discharge was absent. Mr.
Carnovale emphasized that what little evidence there was about the
presence of'~ knife indicated that it was closed, and this was another
important fact for the Board to bear in mind.
The union also took the position that the grievor's evidence was entirely
credible. It was true enough that there were gaps in his memory. These
gaps could, however, be explained by the fact that he was very intoxicated
on the evening in question having consumed more than a case of beer,
several mixed drinks, and some prescription drugs. What was surprising, in
these circumstances, was that the grievor remembered anything at all, and
the fact that he.could not recollect some things should hardly, Mr. Carnovale
argued, be held against him.
It was also the union's submission that there were a number of mitigating
factors present in this case supporting reinstatement of the grievor.
Carnovale noted that the grievor was a long-service employee with a good
record. The grievor had made a number of efforts to deal with his alc'ohol
,problem, ~and to get.his life back in order. The consequences of discharge to
the grievor were extremely serious. There was no chance, the union argued,
of any of the events outlined in this award reoccurring given that the
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grievor now had his..a,!cohol prob!em under control. While some discipline
may have been. appropriate, discharge, the union argued, was excessive, and ·
gr..Carnovale u.rged the Board to give the grievor a se.cond chance by
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reinstating him to en~Ployment subject ~o'whatever strict conditions.the
Board might consider fit.to impo, se.
Decision
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Having .carefully consi~.~[._ed the eyide~ce and arguments i.n this proceeding,
we are of the view that the grievance should be dismissed.
In our view, th..e evid.epce _clearly and_.cogently est.ablishes that the grievor
was resPonsibl,e fo.r the theft .of the two purses on November 21, ~ 991, and
proves, without any dqubt whatsoever,.that h~ pulled a knife on Mr. Dumas,
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threatened him,-and assaulted him. in these circumstances, we can only
find. that.the employer did have ju.s~t cause to terminate. '-While'~o~e of the
evidence .relating .to the theft~ of the two,purses is circumstantia. I,
considered as a whole, that evidence leaves us with little doubt about the
fact that the grievor did take the two purses, His behaviour, particularly
with respect 'to his winte? coati,his .com, ings.a.nd goings.from, the.. ·
.. cloakroom, and the fact that at ~ertain points he did not have money to
spend but at other poi,nts was.again flush, admits of no other explanation
and .satisfies us .that re.s, ponsibi!.itY..for,., those thefts is appropriateiy
attributed to him: We can think of no other rational explanation for the
. grievor's activities other tha'n ,direct involvement in those two thefts.
Even if we had any doubt about the grievor's responsibility for the thefts,
we would have still upheld the dicharge because of the grievor's assault on
Mr. Dumas. The evidence of that assault is not, as is the case with the
thefts, circumstantial. In contrast, that evidence is direct. We find that
the grievor not only threatened to assault Mr. Dumas, he did assault Mr.
Dumas, and he pulled a knife on him in that process. It is not entirely clear
whether the knife blade was exposed or nOt. Certainly, the state of the
knife does not concern us. What is material in this proceeding is that the
grievor, upon being asked to leave by a member of management, pulled a
knife on that person and assaulted him. In these circumstances, one can
only conclude that the employer acted with just cause in discharging the
grievor. When the thefts and assault are considered together, this
conclusion i~ only reinforced,
As noted in the body of the award, there was some contradictory testimony
during these proceedings with respect to What exactly occurred in the
stairwell when the grievor and Mr. Dumas were embroiled in their fight, in
our view, none of these contradictions in accounts, given many years after
the event took place, are at all material to the disposition of' this case.
What matters, again as noted above, is the fact that the grievor did have a
knife and used it in his assault of Mr. Dumas.
It is conceivable that in some circumstanc'es a case like this might result
in the reinstatement of a grievor on strict terms. Certainly, to have done
so in this case we would have required a frank admission of responsibility
on the part of the grievor for the thefts, instead of his categorical denial,
as well as an admission of responsibility for the assault on Mr. Dumas,
instead of his claim that it was Mr. Dumas who initiated the attack. On the
· whole, we flrid';':;~hat'the'~'grie'vor did have a.' Very Selective recollection of
event.~/' " '~'::' '~'~" ' "':' ' '
In contrast; the~wil~n~sSe~ called I~y'the'-~ml~loyer w~e cOmPletely credible.,.
Neither piette witnesS:'had, any reason tO' lie, an~l '~Very r~ason't~o tell the
truth..The 'other witnesses presented by'manag~mer~t were also Credible. It
shOuld be note~"that a r~umbe'~'of Written st~ateme~ts Were'taken 'after these
events. The statements of the'witnesses who testified' on behalf of the
employer were .consistent with the evidence given in this proceeding. The
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grievor did no't sign 'a sl~atem~nt, 's° it Would not be i~roper'to 'solely rely on
management's notes of its interview with the grievor to impeach, his
credibility, although 'those notes do indicate that the griey, or presented a
somewhat Afferent version of events to the 'employer in-the aftermath of
this incident than that he testified before the Boar_d.. Obv_iously, the
passage of time could have much to do with this. However, what was
particularly noteworthy to us was the grievor's denial'of+ some things, his
inability to remember certain things, his reco!lection of othe~s, .. with
crystal 'Clarity, and his position that ali of'the wi~tn.e, sses .who testified on
behalf of the employer were lying and that he alone was telling the truth.
At the end of the day, we have reached the opposite conclusion.
A number of other mitigating factors' which might have assisted the
grievor, and convinced us to exercise our discretion and reinstate him on
strict terms, would have been some more substantial evidence of his
attempts to deal with the underlying problem that led to the events
outlined in this award. The evidence which was presented was neither
conclusive nor persuasive. The remaining mitigating factors are simply
insufficient,, when considered in the ,context of the grievor's activities and
his evidence in these proceedings, to warrant the discharge being set aside.
Moreover, while there was some evidence that the grievor could be
reinte§rated into the workplace, Mr. Pinto, his former supervisor testified
that he was afraid of the grievor.. N1r. Pinto did, however, feel 'that he could,
in the event of reinstatement, reestablish an appropriate
supervisor-employee relationship. Nevertheless, this evidence, when
considered in the context of .the entire case, is insufficient to merit
reinstatement.
Accordingly, and for the foregoing reasons, the grievance is dismissed.
DATED at Toronto this z4th day of AUgust, 1995.
William Kaplan
Vice-Chairperson
E. Seymour
Member
R. Scott
Niember