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GSB# 2018-1346
IN THE MATTER OF AN ARBITRATION
Under
THE CROWN EMPLOYEES COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ACT
Before
THE GRIEVANCE SETTLEMENT BOARD
BETWEEN
Association of Management, Administrative and
Professional Crown Employees of Ontario
(Grievor)Association
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The Crown in Right of Ontario
(Ministry of the Attorney General) Employer
BEFORE Brian McLean Arbitrator
FOR THE
ASSOCIATION
FOR THE UNION
Marisa Pollock and Nadine Blum
Goldblatt Partners LLP
Co-counsel
Avril Dymond
Ontario Public Service Employee’s Union
Grievance Officer
FOR THE EMPLOYER Peter Dailleboust
Treasury Board Secretariat
Legal Services Branch
Senior Counsel
SUBMISSIONS March 31, 2020
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Decision
[1] These grievances arise out of an incident where two employees, one
represented by AMAPCEO (the Grievor) and the other represented by OPSEU
(“B”), had physical contact in the workplace. The employer appointed an
investigator to investigate the incident who essentially found that B’s version of
events was to be preferred. Following the incident, the Grievor went off work
with mental health issues and has not returned.
[2] Broadly speaking there are two issues which need to be determined in these
grievances:
1) what happened in the incident;
2) whether the investigation was tainted by unintentional racial bias.
[3] Early on OPSEU sought to intervene in these proceedings. AMAPCEO objected.
After hearing from the parties I permitted OPSEU to intervene although on a
somewhat limited basis. Paragraph 20 of my award granting OPSEU’s motion to
intervene reads as follows:
1) B will not be a party to AMAPCEO’s challenge to the employer’s
investigation. B’s right to participate in the hearing is limited to the
“incident” and the remedy, if any, which might affect her as a result of
my factual finding.
2) I will be strident in preventing duplication of evidence and argument
during the hearing.
3) I remit the issue of B’s presence in the hearing room to the parties. If
the parties are unable to resolve the situation in a way which protects
the Grievor’s health I will hear submissions on a conference call.
[4] The hearing proceeded over a few days. B has not been in the hearing room
while AMAPCEO has put in its case. On hearing days, B, along with OPSEU
representatives, have been located in the same hearing facility but in a different
room than the main hearing room and has watched the proceedings via video.
OPSEU and counsel and any OPSEU representatives it wishes to have present
is, of course, in the main hearing room participating in the proceedings in person.
Breaks have been given to permit OPSEU counsel to confer with her when
required. OPSEU has had a full opportunity to participate in these grievances
within the parameters which are set out above.
[5] The next hearing is scheduled for mid April. Because of the current health crisis
nobody believes that the hearing should be held in person. It seems that
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AMAPCEO and the employer initially agreed that the hearing should continue via
Zoom video conferencing where AMAPCEO was to call its last witness, an expert
witness, who was to give evidence on unintentional racial bias. The employer
advises that its initial agreement to AMAPCEO’s proposal was based on the
thought that the expert’s evidence fell within category 1 in paragraph 20 set out
above and therefore OPSEU had no legal or other interest in the expert’s
testimony.
[6] AMAPCEO sent me the following email, copied to all parties:
Arbitrator McLean
The next day of hearing in this matter is April 16, 2020. On that day, AMAPCEO
is planning to call Dr. Kawakami as an expert witness. The parties have been
provided with a copy of her report. AMAPCEO intends to ask Dr. Kawakami
some questions in chief (likely no more than 45 minutes worth) and it is our
understanding that the employer will proceed first with cross-examination
followed by OPSEU, who have indicated that their cross will likely be brief.
We are writing to you because there is a dispute about whether the proceedings
on April 16, 2020 should proceed by way of videoconference. The employer has
agreed with AMAPCEO’s request to proceed by videoconference but OPSEU
does not.
Could we please convene a zoom or conference call ASAP to discuss this issue
and how to proceed to have it determined?
[7] Prior to the conference call I emailed the parties and received emailed
submissions on OPSEU’s legal interest in examining the expert witness. OPSEU
convinced me that the expert may have gone outside her mandate somewhat
and had made comments in her report that might be seen as findings of fact or
arguments in relation to the incident itself and not just about the investigator’s
report. Accordingly, I found that OPSEU had a right to make submissions on
whether the examination of the expert should be made via video conferencing.
[8] On March 31 I convened a conference call with all parties for the purpose of
receiving submissions about the videoconferencing issue. All parties made
submissions and following the call OPSEU and AMAPCEO filed caselaw which I
have reviewed and considered. While the authorities cited were of assistance, of
course none of them dealt with circumstances anything like those that face the
labour relations community generally, and those of the government and its
unions specifically, at this time. There was significant contradiction in the cases
about an adjudicator’s ability to assess credibility over video. It may be that this
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controversy stems in part from the adjudicator’s individual comfort level in doing
so.
[9] I have carefully considered the submissions made before me. I will provide a
brief decision.
[10] In my view, I have the authority under the circumstances to compel a
videoconferencing hearing and there was no submission that I lacked jurisdiction
to do so. I also agree, however, that it is a question of balancing interests.
[11] Nobody disputes that, for a whole host of reasons, an in-person hearing is a
superior method of conducting an arbitration hearing. That being said I disagree
with many of the arguments made to me - in my view there are, in general, no
natural justice issues inherently raised by videoconferencing. In many
circumstances a video hearing is a perfectly adequate method to have a
grievance heard. That will be increasingly the case as all parties gain familiarity
with the technology, as it seems they will certainly do. I also agree that there
may be cases where a video hearing is inappropriate. Each case must be
assessed in the context of its particular facts and the particular circumstances.
[12] I accept that there is an interest in determining these grievances quickly. The
Grievor is not in the workplace and it seems that it may be that a resolution is
necessary in order for her to be medically fit to return; the sooner that happens
the better.
[13] The circumstances which gave rise to this motion drive my decision making. It
came to me as, essentially, an agreement by the employer and AMAPCEO to
continue the hearing through online video conferencing. OPSEU objected. The
witness AMAPCEO seeks to call next (by video) is an expert witness. It is
expected by all parties that the expert will testify for a relatively short amount of
time. Additionally, given my earlier rulings in the case, the expert is supposed to
be testifying about issues that do not concern OPSEU or its member. I note that
while I have ruled that OPSEU may participate in this part of the case because in
her report the expert arguably made findings of fact and presented arguments
(which if I took into account would affect OPSEU and its member), it is also the
case that all parties agree that to the extent she did so, I ought not to have
regard to those observations. It is up to the parties to make the arguments they
wish to make and for me to make findings of fact based on the evidence properly
before me. Nevertheless, OPSEU is entitled to participate in the evidence given
by the expert to ensure that what everyone agrees should happen does in fact
happen.
[14] These seem to me to be perfectly acceptable circumstances to use
videoconferencing and I find that it is appropriate to do so for this witness. I note
that if there are unexpected problems in the hearing then the hearing can be
adjourned.
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[15] As for other witnesses, that is a decision best left for after the next hearing day
when all of the parties have had experience in conducting a hearing by
videoconferencing in the relatively unique circumstances of this case. This
includes an assessment of B’s technological capability to fully participate in the
hearing. To be clear, if B (or any other party) has technical issues during the
expert’s evidence which prevent full participation, and which cannot be readily
resolved, the hearing will be adjourned. In any event, the expert will be the only
witness to give evidence at the next hearing day.
Dated at Toronto, Ontario this 9th day of April, 2020.
“Brian McLean”
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Brian McLean, Arbitrator