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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1982-0178.Ibbotson.82-10-06January 6, 1983 MEMORANDUM i Subject: Erratum re: 178/82 Ibbotson ! Please amend your copy of 178/82 Jbbotson by correcting the case number from 175/82 (as issued) to 178/82. The Board’s decision was issued October 7th, 1982. It followed a three-day hearing where, of hk. Ibbotson’s final grievances registered as 97/82, 175/C?, 176182, 177182 & 178182, all but 178182 were settled. H.F. Goss Registrar /lb ,! . . . -2 - AWARD The Grievor was employed as a Steam Plant Engineer at the Rideau Correctional Centre, Burritt's Rapids, Ontario. He began his employment at the Centre in March of 1979, coming to Burritt's Rapids from Guelph and Kitchener where he started in March of 1977. On February 24, 1982 he was-dismissed from his.employment. The reasons for the dismissal as stated in the letter of dismissal are as follows: "(1) On the premises of the Rideau Correctional Centre you sold illegal drugs on October 27 and 28;1980 to an inmate incarcerated at that institution. (2) On October 29, 1980 you admitted 'to an Ontario Provincial Police under cover narcotics officer that you sold illegal drugs on October 27, 1980, to an inmate incarcerated at the Rideau Correctional Centre and further indicated that this was a common practice." Also stated in the letter as being grounds for dismissal are the Griever's initial failure to comply with section 22 of the Ministry of Correctional Services Act (with respect to the giving of a statement to an investigator) and a one day suspension without pay for reporting to duty with breath smelling of alcohol. There are two issues involved in this matter: 1. The question of whether or not the dismissal was for cause and just 2. Whether or not the delegation of authority to dismiss frcm the Deputv Minister to ',e Superintendent was a yralid cne. We propose to deal first with the question of the dismissal. Depending on t?e outcome of &is aart Of e,?e m;iatter, it nay not be necessary to deal with the question of .+~leL:L2tion. - 3- As a matter of general background, the Institution is a medium security Institution with its own farm. It provides trades, academic work, alcohol and drug counselling etc. All of the inmates are housed in a large dormitory where they take their meals. When they leave the dormitory their time out is logged on a daily special duty control sheet by a control officer-at the ioor of the dormitory. Approximately fifty feet from the dormitory is a steam plant with a boiler room in which the Grievor works. As required by relevant legislation there must be one stationary engineer on,duty in the boiler room at all times. The engineer on duty works with an inmate who is assigned to that position. As with any other Institution, contraband does come into the Institution and the inmates,although they are not supposed to, do have certain sums of money available to them. It is a matter of some ~concern to the Superintendent of this Institution as with others that drugs not be available within the Institution, particularly because this Institution provides alcohol and drug counselling. Much of the evidence available tc the Ministry concerning the alleged drug activity of the Grievor came 'to it from an informer who will be known as X. This informer was an inmate tie had worked with the Ontario Provincial Police prior to admission and who worked with the staff of the Institution. 3 e staff of the Institution who gave evidence St the ?.ezrinS, ha.1 conversations with X and had 'I?e benefit of 2 r.eP)rt <i.:en -‘I- @ X to a police officer in late 1980. % was not called at the hearing nor was his report filed and accordingly evidence concerning the Grievor's alleged drug activity is circumstantial. The Deputy Superintendent, David Gorman, met with X at the Institution on October 27, 1980. At lo:15 a.m.,.X handed over to Mr. Gorman a small plastic bag, plus five rolled cigarettes. The contents of the bag and of the cigarettes were,in our view,marihuana amounting to a total weight of approximately seven grams. At approximately 1:30 p.m. on the same day X met again with Hr. Gorman and was given $14.00 to pay for the drugs he had received that morning. On October 28, 1980, X met again with Mr. Gorman at 1:lO p.m. At this time X handed over to Mr. Gorman a plastic bag approximately ten grams in weight. X was given $25.00 to pay for that bag. X also handed over to Mr. Gorman, $35.00 which X had received from an undisclosed source. Later that afternoon X met again with Mz. Gorman and, indicated that he did not wish to continue his undercover activities. He was given the $35.00 back. Thus the inmate X had apparently received on October 21 and 28 a total of 11 grams of marihuana with a value of approximately $39.00. We can speculate that he may indeed have received more and that the $35.00 in question came from his sale to other inmates of cigarettes from the amount he had received, but there is no evidence concerning this. On October 29, 1980, the Grievor and a Nr. Bennett, a known drug dealer, met undercover officer Knapp in a van belonging to the Grievor in the MacDonald's restaurant parking lot in Kingston. The Grievor had driven Bennett to Kingston from Smith 'falls to enable Bennett-to pick up a package~at the bus station. The Griever, Mr. Bennett, and Constable Knapp talked for about 25 minutes in the back of the van. Durinq this conversation Bennett was negotiating with Knapp to buy large quantities of hashish and marihuana and the Parties shared a / joint of hash. (Knapp indicated at the hearing that he "simulated".) During the conversation in the~van the Grievor indicated that he worked at Burritt's Rapids and had 'just taken two ounces of marihuana into an inmate a couple of days ago." He also indicated that the inmate had sold it inside for $2.00 a joint and that it was "a common practice'! Whether the latter comment was a reference to 'the Griever's activities or to the activities of other persons including the-Grievor or not, is unclear. Subsequently, Constable Knapp, arranged with Bennett to buy a quarter pound of hashish and Bennett was arrested in mid-December, 1980. On November 4, 1980 acting on information received the staff of the Institution searched tie boiler room and found a small package containing two c.igarettes of marihuana. In September of 1981, the Griever's house was searched under tie authority of a search warrant and a syringe, a roach clip, and a hashish pioe and a small 5 gram ,cial were found. -6- These items,with the exception of the syringe apparently had traces of cannabis onthem. The Grievor indicated that they were old and had been in a desk which he had moved directly from Guelph three to four year's earlier. No explanation was offered concerning the syringe which was found above a ceiling tile. In December 1981, the Grievor came to work with the smell of alcohol on his breath. He was subsequently suspended from work for one day as a result of this and the Ministry decided to pursue the'alleqations concerning drugs, arising from the incidents approximately one year before. Following an investigation, the Grievor was dismissed on February 1982. Considerable evidence was given concerning tie activities in the boiler room area of the Institution. On . October 25, 26, 27, and 28, 1980, the Grievor worked with inmates other than inmate X on the mid-night to 8:OO.a.m. shift. On October 29, 1980 he was off duty and the "van incident" occurred. Inmate X worked the 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. shift on Saturday, October 25, apparently.on Sunday, October 26, Monday, October 27 and Tuesday, &tober 29, 1980. The evidence from the special duty control sheet shows that it was X's normal practice to leave the dormitory area between 6:00 and 7:00 in the morning and to go to the boiler room. Some time before .8:00 a.m. X would have breakfast back in the dormitor:. area but it, is clear that on ',e days of Oc,toi;fr 15, 26, 27 and 25 : . -7- there would be anywhere from 3 hour to i hour when the Griever, the inmate with whom he was working, and X would be in the boiler room. No evidence~was given concerning anybody who saw the Grievor talking to X during these times but it is undoubted that the opportunity to do SO existed and that conversations took place. No drug charges were ever laid againstthe Grievor, and the basic question is whether or not it has been proven that the Grievor sold drugs to X on October 27 and 28, 1980 or thereabouts. With respect to October 27, the evidence is clear that before the Grievor went home at 8:00 a.m., he had an opportunity to meet with X. Later that day X did turn o~ver approximately seven grams of marihuana to Ur. Goraan. With respect to October 28 it is also clear that before he left for, home at 8:00 a.m. the Griever had an opportunity to meet with X and that X turned over a further ten grams or so of narihuana to Xr. Gormao laxer that day. Put at its highest this evidence as well as the evidence concerning the van incident is the nGb of the Uinistry’s case. The Grievor ad..itted at the hearing tha? he did . I. , -s- to be -t&by them and to be one of, the group, he made the statement. He did not admit making the statement concerning the "common practice" and since that statement did r.Dt appear in Officer Knapp's notes made at the time and only subsequently showed up in his report, we are not totally,satisfied that this part of the statement was made. In our view that sort of comment would be important and it would be the sort of thing that Officer Knapp would put into his notes as soon as possible after it was made. What does concern us is the statement made @ the Grievor on October 29 that he did take two ounces of marihuana into the Institution a couple of days earlier. As suggested by Mr. Benedict in,his able presentation, it is a singular coincidence that a couple of days earlier X had turned over to Mr. Gorman.some seven grams of marihuana. How did the Grievor know about this transaction? One inference is,of course,that it was his transaction. Another one is that he discussed X's activities either with X or with the inmate with whom he was. working on that day or others and had learned of the transaction. One thing that does concern us .is the discrepancies in amounts. In the statement the Grievor refers to two ounces. Two ounces is approximately 77 grams. Only seven grams were turned over by X to Mr. Gorman on October 27. Either X was holding out, or had sold a considerable amount already to inmates or some other possibility exists. If i?::ee.-: X was !?oldinq out, that would suggest he was not teinq Eorthriq?.: -9- , with the people in the Institution and his ~orci might well not be trusted, or that the staff were allo?ving him to sell as his profit from being an informer. The evidence of X was not received by us in any form. ‘#hat we do have is evidence concerning action taken by the staff of the Institution after talking with S and the fact that X did turn over certain drugs to the staff at the Institution. If this were a criminal charge, and X chose to give evidence, he would of course being an informer and having taken part in criminal activity, be an accomplice. As such his evidence would have to be corrobo- rated by evidence independent of him. He did not testify and the only evidence on October 27 and 28 capable off. corroborating what he might have said is evidence concerning opportunity. S;ch opportunity also existed in other i,nmates and other members of staff. Thus the opportunity is not even exclusive. Given the disparity in amounts, the fact that no one saw X talk to the Grievor on October 27. and 28, the fact that there is.no direct evidence of the transactions, we are left in the position that we are highly suspicious of the Grievor but are not satisfied on the balance of probabilities t!:at the evidence has shown tile Grievor to have taken part in these sales. In reaching this conclusion we are doing so on the basis of an ab.sence of clear and credible evidence> given that this is a serious m3t:er. In the result the grievance is :a?lo~ec! and _!ie G:‘ievor is ordered to be reinsrated ;vi:!l lost :~ag:e~ ;u~d !>\~!l,-;‘i~:~s. I\‘+ rfl:>tn;n iul-isclir,ri~:: clvb:r this;. !Je cannot close without some comment concerning +-\e - 10 - on our decision, we are concerned that it took approximately 14 months after the event before the decision was made to discipline the Grievor for the alleged drug sales. It is true that much of the investigation against the Grievor and others was ongoing until September or October of 1981, but by that date at least whatever evidence was available to the Ministry had been received. It was not until the Griever came to work with alcohol on his breath in December of 1981 that a decision was made to proceed. Given that the presence of drugs in an Institution is a very serious matter, we suggest that action might have been taken in the fall of 1981. In his evidence the Grievor disclaimed smoking in the van on October 29, 1980, as well as disclaimed any use of marihuana to the officers conducting the search in September - of-1981. owe were not impressed with these disclaimers nor were we impressed with his explanation for the paraphernalia found at ,his home at that time. We are also reasonably suspicious that at t!!e time of the van incident in October of 1980 he knew .very well who Mr. Bennett was and &at activities he was engaged in. It is a reasonable speculation that in 1980 and 1981 he was a user of drugs. Since he was a peace officer, we would like to make it clear that it is not with any amount of satisfaction t.?at we allow the grievance but do so solely oh rhe basis 0:‘ the poor quality of the evidence and the strict application of the burden of proof which in this case works In his favour. f , ‘. 1 - 11 - DATED at London, Ontario this 7th day of October, 1952. F.D. Collom Xember "I dissent" (see attached) E.R. O'Kelly Member DISSENT I find with regert that I am unable to agree ,with the miority award in this case. The Chairman has set down the essential evidence and it xi11 therefore not be necesscJ to repeat it here. There is no doubt the grievor chose to associate with the drug dealer Bennett and drove hin to Kixigston on Cct. 29/80 in the grievol’s van. He permitted Bennett and Constable Knapp-(a police under cover agent ) to use his van for 25 minutes while negotiating a deal in drugs. He admitted to Knapp selling marihuana in the hlrritt’s Rapids institution a couple of days before. All of this inspite of the fact the griever was a Peace Officer and receiving the Custodial Allowance at this institution which is one designated for the rehabilitation of inmates with drug and alcohol problem. The part played by “X” JUJ be open to question. However, it nould appear he had nothing to gain fros his part in the affair and furthermore Ibbotson’s conversation with Constable Knapp on Oct. 29th ties in.with nX”‘s reports on his activities on Oct. 27th and Oct. 28tjl. I share the conocrn of the Chaimauin regard to the quality of the evidence presented at tiiis hearing, however on balance I feel it is adequate to support the dismissal of Zdr. Ibbotson. I would have denied the grievance. , .‘. i- .- 182/82 IN THE MATTER OF AN ARBITRATION Under THE CROWN EMPLOYEES COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ACT Between: OPSEU (Carol De Los SantOS) Grievor and The Crown in Right of Ontario (Ministry of Colleges and Universities) Employer Before: R. J. Roberts - Vice Chairman W. A. Lobraico Member E. McIntyre Member For the Grievor: J. K. A. Hayes, COUnSd Golden, Levinson Barristers & SOliCitOrS For the Employer: R. B. Itenson -* Staff Relations Officer Civil Service Commission Hearing: June 22, 1982 -2- AWARD, This is a disturbing case. At the conclusion of the evidence offered on behalf of the grievor, the Employer made a motion for a non-suit on the ground that the grievor had not led sufficient evidence to establish a prima facie case on all of the issues that were essential to success on her grievance. In line with this motion, the Employer opted to submit no evidence. Argument followed. The case then was remitted to this panel for decision. Apparently, this was only the fourth time in the history of the Grievance Settlement Board that a motion for non-suit had been made. With considerable regret, we have come to the ,conclusion that the motion for non-suit in this case must be granted. The case involved a job posting grievance. Under the jurisprudence of this Board, the grievor had the burden of proving either that the selection procedure adopted by the Employer was unfair and hence then competition should--be re-run; or, that under a proper~ application of the terms of Article 4.3 of the Collective Agreement, she should have been the successful candidate for the job.* The grievor did not pIace,sufficient facts in evidence to establish a prima *Of aurse,~it is always opan to a grievcx to sM.4 that an inappropriate sel&ctiOn prccedurewasused ard tbtupm a@ication of appnpriaie criteri he or she should have been placed in the pxted position. - 3- facie case on either of these alternatives. Before leaving this brief summary of our conclusions in this case, we wish to allude to the reasons for our considerable regret. First, this ruling which we were required to make pursuant to the Employer's motion does little to promote satisfactory labour-management relations. Any consideration of what might have been legitimate substantive issues has been thwarted. Secondly, in a job posting grievance such as the one at hand, the motion for non-suit seems to be little more thana snare to trap then unwary. Most of the'facts regarding. the selection procedure used in a competition are peculiary within the knowledge 'of the Employer and not the grievor,who has then burden. In recognition of this, other "representatives of the' Employer' have made what might be called 'full disclosure' by calling witnesses, including those who made the selection, so~that the' Board could be informed as to how the competition was conducted and the reasons for ,which the 'cho~ice was made. " Re' 'Genys~ and Ministry of the Environment, G.S.B. #52/80 (Jolliffe), at 7. I Given the existence of t.hi~s practise, counsel for the.grievor undoubtedly was surprised by the Employer's motion. We are so disturbed by this factor that if we were convinced that counsel for the grievor had elicited all of the evidence reasonably within his grasp regarding -4- the fairness of the selection procedure -- and yet failed to establish a prima facie case -- we would have been tempted e to change the law of this Board by shifting ,to the Employer both components of the burden of proof, i.e., burden of producing evidence and burden of persuasion, on the issue of the fairness of the selection procedure established by the Employer for filling the posted vacancy. We now turn to detailed consideration of the case. The law relating to motions for non-suit in job posting cases was establishedzintwo earlier decisions of this Board, Re Genys, supra, and Re Fish and Ministry of Labour, G.S.B. #139/77 (Swinton). In the latter case, Professor Swinton set forth the basic requirement for success on such a motion, saying, "A motion for non-suit requires the Board to decide whether the grievor has led a sufficient quantum of probative evidence to make a prima facie case." Id. at 6. A prima facie cake is established by evidence of a particular fact-in-issue which is sufficient to jatisfy the Board of the existence of that fact. Where circumstantial evidence is submitted on a particular question of fact the sufficiency of this evidence to establish a prima facie case might be tested by asking, "Are there facts in evidence which if unanswered would justify men of ordinary reason and fairness in affirming the question which the plaintiff is bound to maintain?" -5- Wigmore on Evidence, s.2494. In the present case, counsel for the grievor indicated that the thrust of his case would be that the Employer used an unfair or inappropriate selection procedure and as a result, the competition must be re-run. Accordingly, it was crucial to the case for the grievor to submit evidence which if unanswered would justify a person of ordinary reason and fairnessinconcluding ‘that the selection procedure was unfair. The evidence that was submitted on behalf of the grievor falls short, it seems, of satisfying this test. Only the grievor testified in the case-in-chief. understandably, she knew little of the selection procedure which was mused. All.that she really knew was that she had submitted a resume in response to the job posting in question, which was for an industrial training consultant in the tiinistry of Colleges and Universities. The grievor testified that she was not even granted an interview. She found this strange because the same resume had fetched her an interview with respect to a previous job posting for an industrial training consultant in the same Ministry. There was little, if any, other evidence~to support the grievor's claim that the selection procedure must have been unfair. The grievor gave brief testimony that she was acquainted with the successful candidate for the job and that she believed the successful candidate was not as well versed as she with respect to certain routine policies and procedures within the relevant Branch: of the Ministry. There was no evidence to indicate what the qualifications of the successful candidate were. The grievor did not call the successful candidate to give evidence, although it seems that she was available to the grievor. The grievor did testify that in a conversation - with her supervisor after the selection procedure was comp,leted, he indicated to her that he believed she had not been granted an interview because in the history.of the Branch, no Clerk had ever been made a Consultant. The jump was too great. At the same time, the evidence indicated that the grievor's supervisor was not a member of the selection panel. There was no evidence,to indicate that the supervisor had discussed her application with the selection panel. The grievor also gave considerable evidence on her qualifications for the job in question. There was, however, no evidence of the qualifications of the successful candidate. Further, there was no evidence ,of the qualifications of other candidates who had reached - 7 - I . the interview stage. There ~was, however, submitted by counsel for the grievor a Stage 2 answer to the present grievance from H.T. Beggs, Director of Operation, Skills Development Division, Ministry of Colleges and Universities, which commented on the qualifications of other candidates as follows : I am writing today to formally report to you the outcome of our meeting of April 2, 1982, which was held as' the result of the grievance which you initiated on February 22, 1982 pertaining to competition ED/CU 205/81 - Industrial Training Consultant, East Toronto. . . . At that meeting, I had the'opportunity to review the information presented by you and Mr. Jim Best, Staff Representative ~of the Ontario Public Service Employees~' Union, and ~to examine the qualification criteria established for the competition, your personal'resume, and the qualifications of candidates who' wer'e inter'viewed. On that basis, I am of the opinion that, at the' time then competi.tion was called, several candidates whd possessed stronger qualifications than you were, in fact, available for interview, and were ther.efore granted,the opportunity to meet with the selection.panel in formal interviews for the position advertised. This letter, which is the only evidence we have regarding . . the other candidates in the competition, states that in the opinion of the writer they possessed stronger qualifica- tions than the grievor. Can these facts if left unanswered justify a person of ordinary reason and fairness in concluding that the -8- 1 i selection~procedure used by the Employer was inappropriate or unfair? We think not. At best, the circumstances proven by the grievor go no farther than to.establish' that she suspected that the selection procedure was unfair. This falls far short of establishing a prima facie case for the grievor. In this regard, we note that in Fish, supra, where the Board had considerably more reason to believe that procedural unfairness had occurred, the grievance nevertheless was dismissed in response to a motion for non-suit. See id. at 6-7. We hasten to reiterate what we said previously in this Award, i.e., that had we been convinced that the grievor elicited all of the evidence reasonably at her dkposal regarding the unfairness of the selection procedure, yet still fell short of establishing a prima"fa.cie 'case of unfairness, we would have been tempted ~to change the law of .this hoard. The grievqr, however;~. did not. The successful applicant could have been called by the grievor to,give evidence reg.$rding her own qualifications for the position and the questions asked or comments ma~de during the interview process. The grlevor might also have been able to secure a copy of the application and resume of the successful applicant. -9- See Genys, supra, where the grievor did submit in evidence the application of the successful candidate. There was no indication by counsel for the grievor that he had attempted to secure such additional evidence and could not because of lack of co-operation or unavailability. The grievance is dismissed. DATED AT~London, Ontario this 6th day of October, 19S2. , Vice-Chairman "I concur" W. A. Lobraico, Member "I dissent" (see attached) I?. NcIn<yre; Member + DISSENT I am compelled to dissent from the decision of the majority on several aspects of their award. In my view the majority.has wrongly interpreted the current state of'arbitral jurisprudence with respect to the nature of the prima facie case which must be led by the grievor in a case such as this involving competitive promotion language. The majority has concluded that to establish a prima facie case, the grievor would be required to show that on the comparison between herself and the incumbent, she should have been the successful candidate fcr the job, This conclusion is in direct contradiction to the weight of arbital authority which is succinctly stated in Brown and Beatty; Canadian Labour Arbritration, (1977), para. 6: 3200, p.p. 260-1, as follows: "Once an employee has made out a case that.he does possess the requisite skill and ability for the job on the standards invoked by the employer, however, the onus will shift to the employer 'I to come forward and establish the grounds for its opinion"." There are a number of decisions which have followed this line of reasoning, including, Re Bridge and TanR Co. of Canada Ltd. and U.S.W. Local 2537, 1975 9 L.A.C. (2dJ 47 (Weatherill), Re Corporation of the Town of Valley East and Canadian Union of Public Employees, ~Local 6, (198 1, 27 L.A.C. (2d) 154, (Kennedy),and Ontario Nurses Association and Elisabeth Bruyere Health Centre (August 30th, 1982) -2- (Saltman), (unreported). The Corporation of the Town of Valley East case was very similar to the matter before this board. It also was a promotion case involving competitive seniority language. The grievor gave evidence establishing that he could do the job. No evidence was called with respect to'the comparative skills and abilities of the incumbents. Mr. Kennedy at page 160 says: "In applying the foregoing principles to the fact situation before us, we think it reasonable to conclude that the employee has made out a prima facie case that he does possess the'requisite skill and ability to perform the job in view of the fact that he has performed it on four occasions in the past and, further that on four occasions inthe past the company has on a job posting awarded this specific job to the grievor. It is self-evident that neither the grievor nor the union is privy to the interal proceedings and deliberations of the company and the grievor's - evidence that the company has neither given him any reason for its selection has not been refuted. In the circumstances, we are satisfied, consistent with the authorities referred to in Brown and Beatty, that the onus has shifted t2 the company to come forward and establish the grounds for its opinion that the training, skill and efficiency of the grievor and Denmore are not relatively equal. This was not done in the evidence presented to the hearing." -3- The Elisabeth Bruyere Health Centre case is also similar to this one. It too involved a competitive job promotion clause. There was no evidence called by either side with respect to the comparative skill, 'competence, efficency and qualifications of the incumbent and the grievor except to the extent of some eivdence on absenteeism rates and prior experience. The grievor howevertendered evidence sufficient to establish that she had the necessary skill, competence, efficiency and qualifications to perform the job in question. That Board said that thiswas a sufficient prima facie case to shift the onus to the employer to establish the basis of the selection. It is clear from these cases that, while it is necessary for the grievor to establish a prima facie case, that this is done when the grievor establishes that he or she does possess the requisite skill, and ability for the job. At this point, the onus then shifts to the employer. An application of this analysis to the evidence tendered in this case clearly shifts the onus to the employer to establish the basis for its decision. The majority, while recoynisiny that the facts regarding the selection procedure used in the cornpetiTion are peculiarly within the knowledge of the employer and not the grievor, has not taken the next step in shifting the burden to the employer. terms: Rather, the majority has set up a test in these ‘. - 4 - "We are so disturbed by this factor that if we were convinced that counsel for the yrievor had elicited all the evidence reasonably within its grasp regarding the fairness of the selection procedure.... we would have been tempted to change the law of this board by shifting to the employer both components of the burden of proof...." In my view this test is an inappropriate one in that it would require the parties to enter into an exercise of calling evidence on the availability of evidence; This could lead to no end of problems. In this case- all the'Sbard knows as. to the availability of evidence is the allegation by counsel for the employer thatthe grievor was in the position to call the incumbent. It is not appropriate to.accept this type of assertion by counsel nor is it appropriate to expect union counsel to testify as to difficulties in obtaining evidence; The more reasonable approach would be, to place the avidentiary burden as to the selection process and the rationale for the decision automatically upon the employer once it has been established by the grievor that she has the skill and ability to do the job in question. The second basis on which I would dissent from the reasons of the majority, is on their assessment of the evidence.' Even if one were to accept the legal analysis of the majority, the evidence presented by the union establishes a prima facie case. The collective agreement requires that the employer "shall give primary consideration to qualifications and ability - 5 - to perform the required duties". It was the union's assertion that the employer, with respect to Mrs. De Los Santos, did not give the consideration required. My review of the evidence .‘inBicates that there is evidence to support this assertion. 1. Mrs. De Los Santos was not given an interview by the selection committee. 2. The evidence given by the grievor with respect to's conversation with her superior would indicate that he was not consulted with respect to her abilities. It would appear therefore, that consideration was given to the grievor only to the extent that her qualifications were reflected in her resume. No consideration was given to her abilities. Accordingly, there is a prima facie case made out by the grievor that the employer has breached the first part of Artical 4.3. On this issue, as distinct to the issue of the comparison between the incumbent and grievor, the union has indeed called all evidence which is reasonably within its grasp. The bunion cannot be reasonably be expected to subpoena and examine the members of the assessment committee not to subpoena and examine any other member of management who _s may have been involved in considering the qualifications and abilities of the applicants. The majority has indicated that the incumbent could have called the successful applicant to give evidence with respect to her qualifications and abilities. However, this would have thrown absolutely no light on the first and primary issue; whether the employer gave the required consideration to the grievor. . - 6 - Finally, in my opinion, the majority has underrated the evidence before the board with respect to the second issue: the comparative qualification abilities of the Grievor and incumbent. We have evidence as to the skills and knowledge which the employer considered to be required for the position as set out in the job posting notice. We also have evidence that the incumbent had not worked in the department before, that she did not have as much familiarity with the programs of the Ministry as did Mrs. De Los Santos and further that she had difficulty in performing her duties. Given the policy consideration setout in the majority decision, that evidence establishes a prima w case on the second issue such to require the employer to come forwards with the evidence which is obviously available to it. In light of the above, I would have upheld the grievance in this matter. Elizabeth &cIntirs' Member ouhe Board