HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-0431.Spence and Siddiqi.85-11-25Before
THE CROWN EMPLOYEES'COLLECT IVE BARGA ,INING ACT
THE GRIEVANCE SETS 'LEMENT BOARD
Between: OPSEU (W. Spence,
And
TE‘EPI*ONE: rrs/soa-me
431184
432184
IN THE MATTER OF AN ARBITRATION
Under
M. Siddiqi)
(Grievors)
The~Crown in Right of Ontario
(Ministry of Government Services)
('Employer)
Before: M. R. Gorsky
H. Simon
;;;;;;hairman
B. Lanigan Member
For the Grievor: ;bu;;;;antyne
Caval.l~u~zro, Hayes & Lenn,on
For the Employer:
P. D. Van Horne
Manager, Staff Relations
Personnel Services Brar.ch
Ministry of Government Services
kearincs March 25, 1985
June 20, 1585
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DECISION
The grievances, in this case, are identical:
"That the Ministry of Government Services
has contravened Article 4.3 of the Collective
Agreement by filling a vacancy for a Purchasing
Officer 3, Ccmoetition GS #24/84, with an
applicant who is less qualified and able to
perform the duties of the job than myself." ..~
The settlement required is also the same in both cases:
"That I be confirmed in the above position as
of March 20, 1984 with full retroactive pay
and benefits." . .
The Notice of Competition (Exhibit 4) was posted in
February of 1984, with a closing date of:February 17, 1984 and is
as follows:
V.ephd by the Purchasing Sentices Branch,CollectiveFurchasing~Services to
rccnitcr d rmew exiS’~bq Collective Purchasirq Arr~qexmtr; a-d pvide ass&,t-
ante to the Senior SU&Y Officer in the develolznent of new A,rrang~~ for
clothing, textiles and,related po;lucts/s&ces. You will: review and analyze
+rchase activity rcprts; .~ conduct paricdic rev&m of product/service rquirerrcnt_+
.of.clier.t ministries; rcviw an3 revise spscificatiam and tender dan.m&ation
to reflect nw dcvelopmnts; atteri-3 tender ~pairqs, prepare spread sheets,
covzative analysis andSLmlT&.es of quotations/tenders receive; prepare contract
&ZCCWI~S aikd arramje for their distribution. You will assist the Senior Supply
officer in: es+&lishing cuzent and titUre.czmrcdi~kr.&e requirerents of
.- client ministries; determining the feasibility of establishing Collective
Pcrc!asing Arrangen-ents i and assisting at meetings to resolve special user or
sunlier problem. .
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Eileen Tobin, was the successful applicant and was
awarded the position.
There were six persons interviewed for the position,
including the Grievors and the incumbent, Ms. Tobin. Ms. Tobin
obtained the hichest score from the Dane1 administering the compet- .-
ition, followed by Mr. Spence and Mr. Siddigi. The remaining
unsuccessful candidates did not grieve. The incumbent,Ms. Tobin,
was given notice of this hearing and of her right to be represented
and to participate in the hearing, and she did personally attend
and participate in the hearing.
For the purposes of this hearing,,and without,prejudice
to any position either side might wish to take in future proceedings;
the parties accepted that the standard of review in this,competition
case would be that as outlined by the Grievance Settlement Board
in the Caston and Therrien 142/80 140/80 and Robinson 522/80 cases.
At pps.Z-3 of the Union's submissions it was stated:
In Castors and Therrien, the board stated as
follows:
"The board will have to review ally of
the evidence of the respective attributes
Of the competing employees as they
relate to the qualities designated~ in
the collective agreement eg. skill.and
ability. If the board concludes that
management has, in arriving at its
decision, relied on all evidence which
is relevant to conducting such an
assessment and has not been influenced
by irrelevant consFderations;,that will
not end the matter: This is %cacse
:he unreasonableness of the decision
can cast licht on whether management
was condxt& its assessnent b0,r.a frees. . .
YIhere the decision is, in the opinion
of the board, not one that an arbitrator
could reasonably have arrived at on an
assessment of the evidence, it would be
necessary for the board to conclude
that the decision of management was not
arrived at bona fide and on a complete
considerationof all of the relevant
evidence."
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This approach was adopted by the same chairman in the
more recent Robinson decision (522/80), where the board stated:
(at page 3)
“As, in my view, a correct interpretation
of that case is fu,nda..ental to a disposition
of this grievance, I will repeat what I said in the case of Re Therrien and Caston
(nos. 142-80 and 140-67, respectively),
where I concluded that the A & P case
does not impart a~standard..Sifrrectness
or one of reasonableness, but rather a test requiring that management has
conducted itself in good faith in admin- :
istering the clause in question, that its
decision was a reasonable one and that
its decision was complete in the sense
that it acted on all of the evidence
relevant to the case and was not affected
by irrelevant considerations."
In the Employer's written kbmissions, in referring
~to the standard of review followed in the Caston and Therrien and
'%. Robinson cases,it was stated at pp.l-2
",+he employer underscads this srandard of reviev to be that outlined
by Professor Ueiler at p. 125 in the A.C. Housing case at page 3.
“In the face of these tvo extreme positions, arbitrators developed
a third, igternediate position betveen these tvo poles. Under this
viev , the sole of an arbitration board was co ensure that:
c!le coc>arly’s dec;sion ZRJSi be no:-dlsc7i~inetory, arrd
subject to the terns of the conc~act (including the se~,iori:)‘
cla!d:se) i2 NO senses: first, tie judgerren: of :h% C3t,a"V
2"s. be honest, and unbiased, and no: ac:ua:ed 5~ anv rr.a?i:e ,
the managerial decision must be reasonable: one vhich s reason-
able employer could have reached in the light of the facts
available. The unde:lying purpose of :his interpretation is
to’prevenc the arbicrarlon board caking over the functior. of
oanagexent a position vhich it is said they ate manifestly
incapable of filling. Yet the managerial discretion to
decide has been lim’- ,.ed by the terms of the agreement and it
&s the duty of the arbitration board co ensure that it Ls
exercised in rhe light of proper priticiples and criteria, that
all relevant considerations have been adverted to, and that
all irrelevant facts have been excluded from the process of
decision.
Re U.E.W., Local 523 and Union Carbide Canada Ltd. (19671, 18
L.A.C. 109 (Weiler) at pp.117-8.
Governed by this principle of arbitral restraint, arbitrators
have perceived their role in reviewing management’s decisions
on a* employees’ qualifications as involving tvo enquiries.
Initially, the arbitrator.m-.st determine the requirements of
the job. and then against those requirements, assess the
reasonableness s:andards or criteria used by the employer.
Having made that de:erminatioa, the arbitrator must then
.examine .the manner in vhich the .employer applied those
standards to th; various applicants for the job vacancy.
(See generally, Brown and Bcatcy, Canadian Labcur
Arbitration (19771, at pp. 253-60.)
“.In Castor, and Therrien, the.Board describes this standard of reviev
in the following manner at page 4. “An examination of this statement
discloses chat there are three elements ,in the.;Company’s decision
vhich a board ~st reviev. The first, is the requirement that
ranagement’s judgenest be exercised in a bona fide manner. AS vi11
be noted infix, the Divisional Court in the s case did not disagrer
oi:h suck a standard. The second test concerns the reasonableress
of the decision. As vi11 also be seen from an examination of the A&p -
case, this is also a requirement of the review by the board. The
zdditional require~enc of conpleteness, in the sense that the ac:ion
of c:ar.epexz: be carried auf in accordance ‘.‘l:h “?roper ?rincl?les
and criteria” and “:iTa: .%I! re1evan: considera:ior.s have been zver:ed
:0, and cha: al? irre,levant iacrs have been ex:iud,e< from :he ;~rocess
of decision.” (See S.C. H0csir.n case a: p. IZS,! re>resez:s a :iLri
fac:or in the rev~ev - one :ha: i v!ev as slso:,belxS prr: of :he
;: >r?;ch landaced by c:,e Civ.zi0r.a: Coir~c, I?. :kle Ah7 cast. ”
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At p.4 of the'Union's brief, the standard of review
was -stated to be:
"In other words, the issue is not so much
whether the decision of the selection panel
is wroncj; but whether the panel can be said
to have behaved reasonably, in all the circum-
stances. "
The Employer, in its brief, at p.2, viewed the issue
before the Boa.r%'& being: “Not as the union submits*, that is:
"whether the~panel can be said to have behaved reasonably, in
all the circumstances but rather whether the employer contravened
Article 4.3 of the collective agreement as stated in the grievances
of Mr. Siddiqi and Mr. Spence."
Further,at p.2 of the Employer's brief,the question of
whether the Employer contravened Article 4.3 is viewed as requiring
a three fold test: "The,first is the requirement that management's
judgment be exercised.in a bona fide mdnner. -- The second element
is the requirement of completeness as described above in Caston and
Therrien at p.4. The third element concerns the reasonableness of . -..
the decision."
At p.3 of the Employer's brief, it is stated:
"In Caston and Therrien the Board at p.4 described the element of completeness, in the sense that the
action of management be carried out in accordance
with 'proper principles and criteria' 'that all
relevant considerations have been adverted to and
that all irrelevaht facts have been excluded from
the process of.decisicn' see B.C. Housing case at
p.125."
I find that the standard of arbitral review as described
in the Izployer s brief 2s th2t which wzs e?.unciated ir, the tz.stcr.
an? Therrien and Robinson cases and that the Union's izter;r2ta:lz:.
of those cases is incorrect. In the Em?io.ver's brief
_ f ; 5: .P, 5 . . i' 2 t >, 2 :, :T.j):
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1, . . . the judgment of the Company must be honest,
and unbiased and not actuated by any malice or
ill-will directed at a particular employee, and
second the managerial decision must be reasonable,
one which a reasonable employer could have reached
in the light of the facts available . ..."
the reference being to Union Carbine Canada Ltd.(1967),18 L.A.C. 10~:
(Keiler~) at p.118. Thus, the reasonableness required‘according to ~~
the standards set out in the Caston and Therrien and Robinson cases,
is the reasonableness'of the decision in the light of the facts av5.i:
able, the Employer being required to act'only on relevant evidence
land to avoid being influenced by irrelevant evidence.
At p.4 of the L'nion brief, two separate grounds are
stated for setting aside the decision of the selection panel, the
first one being:
"(1) First of all, it is our position that although
the panel conducted the interview process in a reasonable manner
(by which I mean that the content of the ~questions put,to the ~.--,
candidates, and the conduct of the panel during the interyiew,
were reasonable), it acted unreasonably when it came to the
next and crucial step - the evaluation of the candidates'
experience. The panel failed to seek a comparison by a know-
ledgeable supervisor, Mrs. June Shoup, of the grievor Mr.
Siddiqi and the incumbent Ilrs. Tobin. At the hearing, we
heard Mrs. Shoup say that Mr. Siddiqi was, in her opinion, :> ,., .~. _,~,'. _,
better than Mrs. Tobin. She evaluated Mrs. Tobin as "satisfactory".
but would (in the absence of restrictions imposed by her super-
“In our submissicn; the fail-re 05 the ?anel to elixir
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What the Union must be seen to have argued, having accepted, for
the purposes of this case, the standard of review above referred to,
is a failure on the part of the Employer to seek out certain evide:::.e
which, it was claimed, was -highly relevant in the decision making
process. That is, the Employer,in failing to seek-a comparison by
a knowledgablc Supervisor, Mrs. June Shoe?, of the Grievor,tir.
Siddiqi and the incumbent Mrs." Tobin, failed in the completeness
test.
-It was the position of the Employer, at p.5 of its brief,
that.the selection panel had "followed the direction of the Grievenice
Settlement Board as outlined in MacLellan and Degrandis 506/81,
507/81, 690/81 and 691/8l,wherein the jurisprudence is summarized
at pp.25 and 26. The quotation from that case is set Out at p.5
of the Employer's brief at pp.5 and 6:
"The juriiprudence of this Board has established various criteria
bg which .CO judge e selection ptocett~
1. Candidates must be evaluated on all the relevant quslif~- i,~_
cations for the job =S set out in the Position Specification.
2. The va.rious methods used CO assess the candidates should
address these relevant qualifi,cc$ons insofar as is possible.
For exanple, interview questions an’d evaluation form
should cover all the qualifications.
3. Irrelevant factors should not be.considered.
4. All :he members of a selection copmirtet should reviev the
personnel files of all the applicants.
5. The applicants' supervisors should be asked for their
evaluations of the applicants.
6. Information should be accumulated in a syste~~agic way
concexing al ? the applicants.
See nezari 149177; u, O/78; Hoffmn , 1217s; F?lS~C~~h e: al, -’
361100; and cross, 339101. I’
6 The Employer noted at, p.6 of its brief:
"The union has not challenged the completeness
of the process used by the employer. The fact
that the panel asked the supervisor of each
individual applicant for an evaluation is not
in dispute."
The Bmployer,further in its brief at p.6:
. . . acknowledged the evaluation provided by a
candidate's supervisor constitutes significant
relevant evidence concerning a person's qualifications
and ability. However the union would have the panel
go far beyond the practice of the employer and the
position adopted by the Grievance Settlement Board.
The union would require the supervisors to.make a
determination about the relative ability and qualif-
ications of other candidates. With respect this is
the task of the panel and not of the candidate's
supervisor."
In responding to the Union's submission that the
additicnal information (relative ranking) obtained from Mrs. Shoup-
would be relevant to the panel',s consideration, the Employer argued
at p.6 of its brief:
"The employer disputes this assertion and draws
the Board's attention to facts which were established.
in evidence. Mrs. Shoup was not the current supervisor
of Mrs. Tobin, she had not supervised her work'since
1980 or approximately 5 years. Mrs. Shoup had only
supervised Mrs. Tobin for approximately 0 months at
the earlier stages of Mrs. Tobin's career."
I would find that evidence concerning Mrs. Shoup's eval-
u~ations of Mrs. Tobin and Mr. Siddiqi would.represent relevant
evidence for consideration by the selection ~panel. Nevertheless,
the evidence disclosed that Mrs. Shoupwas not the current supervisor
of ?lrs. Tobin at the'time of the competition, and had not supervised
her work-'sitice 1980, some five year's ago, and the supervision
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must ask a supervisor, whose supervision occurred some five year's
ago and who had evaluated Mr. Siddiqi and Mrs. Tobin as being sat-
isfactory, to rank them or to compare them. Mrs. Shoup's concerns
of some five year's ago do not appear to'have manifested themselves
in Mrs. Tobin's work performance during the later stages of her
employment.
The Employer argued at p.8 of its brief that:
The criteria established by :he aoard in nsclellan and Degrandls a:
pages 25 and 26, by vhich to judge a selection process contain fiye
other extensive tests vhich the erployer must meet.. It should be
nored tha: all fes:s have been met and the completeness of the
process employed by the panel is not in dispute. The union is
seeking.to add yet another criterion by which the panel’s efforts
can be judged and suggesting that failure to neet this additional
criterion constitutes P fatal flav.
Lc has been retbgnized by the Board in numerous avards such as Cross
339/81 (Jcliffe) that ev+ry selection process vi11 contain some
flaw. The question becomes, is the flav so tignificrdi that the
decision of the panel must be overturned?'
I cannot regard the failure on the part of the Employer to place
before the selection panel a ranking of the' candidates Yx. Siddiqi
and Mrs. Tobin which is some five years old and which relates to
an early period of Mrs.. Tohin's em?nlovment as significant. I a0 not
regard Mr. Alex Marshall, who was a member of the Interview Panel,
as having indicated that that evidence would have a significant im?a
02 him. Pather, he indicated that he would have considered that
ei" derce - . . I find the evidence to have s,xk. limited weight tF,at, :f
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I have reviewed my notes with respect to Mr. Marshall's
cross-examination,when he was asked whether he would be influenced
b!, knowledge that Mrs. Shoup would have considered Mr. Siddigi as
being above average while considering Mrs. Tobin to be merely average.
Yr. Marshall answered that,in looking at all of the information
concerning the Grievors and.the Incumbent, the reference checks
disclosedthat they were all thought of as being "very satisfactory".. ?;
Se stated that the totality o f the evidence left the panel with the
conclusion that the Grievors and the incumbent were "very satisfacto!\::
Later he stated that such information would not make a difference
and that he was satisfied that he had made the right decision. In
stating that he would "probably reconsider his decision", viewing
this evidence in the context of his other evidence, I find that he
would have reconsidered his ~decision in the light of this additional
evidence but, given the totality of the evidence, it would not have
caused him to change his.mind. I find it significant that Mr. Marshall
testified that in evaluating the.applicants the totality of their
exlaerience was considered. In the case of Mrs. Tobin, it was not
only her recent experience, but her experience over a seven year period
I find even more significant Mr. Marshall's evidence that
the interview process was a most important factor in arriving at the
choice of the successful candidate because it was intended to object-
ively test how the experience of the candidates suited them for the
oosition. The significance of the interview questions will be deait
with iater in this kward.
7k.c altC-,.GL-.L S"3,1SSlCT. CT -->-:..-i -+;-, 5 'Jy.io-J {.;tC ! 3 - _ \__ 2.2, :'I :
J.!.
I must view this alternative submission as representing a claim
that even though this Board might find that the panel passed the
completeness test, as above set out, its decision was not one that
a Board acting on such evidence, could reasonably have arrived at.
This is shown from the statement in the Union's brief .at 2.9:
"It is our position that the decision in this
case is not one which a reasonable panel could
have arrived at on a fair assessment of the
evidence."
In considering the element of reasonableness, the
3ployer argued at pp.4-3 of its brief:
w Tnht Scope of Arbitral Reviev as described in Brevn and Beatty
2d at page 298 refers to :&a element of reasonableness in this .. ~_,-~
nanner . "It has been generally accepted tha: the standard of
arbitral review of any managerial decision~vhlch includes an
assessment of the abillties,~.pf various employees is less rigorous
than in the case of disciplinary decisions effecred by the employer. .
On this undersranding, it has been said that unless there is
evidence of dtscriminatfon, bad faith, (as for example, bias in
1 selec:ion commi:kse) or the employer exercised fts judgenenc
unreasonably, arbitrarors should be loath to fncerfere with
., managemeac’s decision. In the usual case, and partfcularly vhen
the jobinissue is a skilled and technical one,the fssue is not
vieved as vhether the grievcr in fact possesses the requisite skill
~I and abili:y but rather vhether the employer’s decision as CO those
ma:ters is reasonable in the circumsfances. From the earliest wards
ic was said that the primary function o- c the arbirral reviev in these
circumstances is to ensure chat:
. ..ihe judgemerit of the company mu;C be hones:, and unbiased, and
not actuated by any malice or ill vi11 directed at the particular
enplcyee, and second the manage.. -‘al decision rust be reasonable,
oT.e r-hich a reasonable eaployer could bzve reached in the ?Lgit
0: r!le facts available. The underl?:ng ?cr;l‘se of cr.;* inter-
pIecation is to preven: the arbi:ra:Con boar6 taii~g over the
funct<oc cf ranagme::, a posi:lon v’:,ici i: Is said :!ley are
~;:ifes:lr incapable of filling.
.;-iep, c.;rb<+r CarJ?> :.i.. !:o’.‘) it, : ~2 r :-c.:‘;“:.:py! PI- r.:.:
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It was acknowledged by the Union, in its Reply at p.5,
that:
"Having alleged a violation of Article 4.03
of the collective agreement, the onus is on
the union to make out its case. This has
never been in dispute. Our point was that
because both grievors have greater seniority,
Mrs. Tobin's abilities and qualifications
must be found to be superior to theirs if
she is to be confirmed in the .position."
It is also significant,in this case,that the Union
did not chalienge the standards relied upon by the Employer. NC?C
was it suggested that the interview panel's decision was not made
honestly, in good faith and without bias, malice, ill-will or
discrimination against any of the candidates. As is noted in
the Employer's brief (at p.3): "No evidence was adduced which woulti
suggest that the Union intends.to use this element as a foundation
for their position."
An examination of the evidence discloses that the vacant
position of Supply Officer, Clothing and,Textiles, was atypically
classified as a Purchasing Officer III. Mr. John Casey, an employee
of the Ministry of Government Services since 1973 and now the
Manager of Government Stationery Services in the P'urchasing
Services Branch and Mr. Marshall the Manager of the Collective
Purchasing Service Section 05 the Ministry of Government Services
testified on behalf of the Employer. Mr. Casey described the '.'aca?~
position as involving negotiating with client Ministeries and
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ified requirements, filling orders on an as required basis. He
contrasted the posted position with the typical Purchasing Office: /
pcsition and stated that the posted position-of Supply Officer,
Clothing and Textiles,, required negotiating skills, good communi-
cation ability, interpersonal skills and the ability to visualize
problems. These criteria can-be seen to be reflected in the
qualifications required by the posted competition notice.
The qualifications listed on the notice of competition
(Exhibit 4)'are:
"Several years related purchasing and supply experience". Z-3 .
Siddiqi has four years of direct supply experience, gained while
working as a Supply Consolidation Analyst and seven years of direct
purchasing experience; gained while working as senior Purchasing
Officer.
The Employer,,at p.11 of its brief, acknowledged that Mr.
Siddiqi met the qualification requirement of several years purchasin
and supply experience,. His experience was said to be in the office
equipment product line and it was claimed that he did not have
experience in the area of clothing and textiles. However, during
the hearing, there was an agreement between counsel that clothing
and textile experience would not be considered to be a significant
factor. It is therefore inappropriate. for the Employer to now
comment upon Mr. Sid~diqi's apparent lack of experience in this
area. (see p.6 Union reply).
The ?rinci?al ar,-u~ent made by t5.e E>?loyer s:a* that, ..:
while Xr. Siddiqi had a number of years cf experience,he contln-
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It was also the Tosition of the, Employer that he had not
taken any courses related to the position applied for since 157E..
In the Union's rep.iy (p. 6) , this was stated to be "not,
strictly speaking, correct.~"-Mr. Siddiqi was asked;on cross-examin-
a:ion,when he had taken the many courses referred to on his rescme.
Xot surprisingly,he could not remember the'exact dates. He was able
to say that at least one or two o f them were taken 'in 1975 and 1976.
h'e was not asked tom put dates on all of the courses he had taken.
Sidd4 ..+ 's demeanor during his examination was such that I concluded
that the Employer's position was more likely correct and that there
was no evidence to support .Mr. Siddiqi's having'taken courses
related to the position since 1978. ..7
.Mr . Siddiqi's position was that he.had a Commerce degree
from Karachi University, Karechi, Pakistan. There was some dispute
as to the accuracy of.Mr, Siddiqi's formal educational qualifications
before this~Board. For the reasons to be given, I do not find this
issue to be or to have been a significant one in the making of the
decision appointing Mrs. Tobin.
Mr. Spence has twelve years of experience (1968-1980)
-working in supply management, and four years of experience workins
as a Sourcing Analyst in ?urchasing. The evidence discloses
that he left high school without completin'g 'grade 12.
he now considers that he has the equivalent of a grade 12 diploma,
which evidence was not challenged by the Employer. ?lr. Qence,
..- ,..like .\:r. S,itidiqi, b.as t2 ker. n~~~ersus zecezi c3c:rses relati-c tf.
the ;rurchasing function. There ~ws.5 nc e:.:cence , however, ;neic2,:;.:
>-,lt >,e kad recel-:e;t the cor.tifi-,?ti3> a.:ci?able - a- the ccr,~ls:lcF.
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the very important reason that he was
not's purchasina officer and was not. working
in the field. I&. Spence at all material d-
times was a sourcing analyst not a purchasing
officer. The most senior level attained as a
sourcing analyst was the classification of
Clerk 5 General in June of 1977'or~ approximately
eight vears ago. This classification level as
shown in Exhibit 24 and 25 is approximately the
pay level of a Purchasing Officer 1."
The Union submitted that:
"Mr. Spence was seconded to a Purchasing Officer
position in December, 1981, and remained in that
position until August 1982. Exhibit 22 indicates
that the secondment took effect on December 1,
1981 and Mr.~ Spence was to assume Mrs. Tobin's
purchasing duties."
In the Employer brief at p.12, .it is stated:
"This document and the evidence put before the
Board suggest that Mr. Spence was considered
junior to Mrs. Tobin in terms of purchasing
experience.".
I accept the submission of the Employer, that this was the case,
in the absence of any response to displace the normal conclusion .
that the facts would dictate.
Much was made of the question of which of the candidates
was better educated. The class definition of Purchasing Officer III
(Bxhibit 14) indicates in "qualifications" that:
"The successful completion of grade 10
secondary school education is the formal
education requirement."
In Zxhibit 11, being a letter to Mr. Siddiqi, dated May 23, 1984,
from John A. Jackson, Executive Director, Corporate Services, it
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I am satisfied that the difference in formal education of the Grievorr
and IMrs. Tobin (university, high school) did not play a Significant
role in the competition.
Mrs. Tobin has been with the Ministry of Government
Services since Narch 1, 1978. Prior to joining the Ministry, she
was employed as a Department Bead working with buyers of comtimoditics
at Eudson Bay. 'in this position she supervised staff, took inventor;
maintained stock and had a great deal of client contact. Shea
com!!enced employment with the Employer, in the Supply Adminis-
tration Branch and has been~ employed in a variety of positions,
all within the purchasing function.
On February 4, 1980, Mrs. Tobin successfully competed
for the position of Purchasing Officer I in the Supply Administra-
tier. Branch. Her evidence went in& her extensive experience
involving purchasing duties. As noted above, in December of 1981,
she was seconded to the Executive Director's office, where she
gained considerable managerial experience and a corporate perspective
in government purchas.ing. From September 1982 until January 1983,
she worked in Collective Purchasing assisting Senior Supply Officers
In January of .1963, she was seconded as a Purchasing Officer II to
Government Stationery SerCices,
where s.he gained additional experi-
ence relating to the position applied for. Subsequently, the.
Executive Director of the Division, Mr. Kelly, requested her . .
assistance in a project concerning Corporate Government Purchasing
Practices and Policies, wh-ich he 'n‘as in;rcl:-ed in at the Ci;Til
Service Ccz7isslon. As noted above, ~alti-.o-qh the Emploqer arc-cl
th2.t she ?.a13 s,cperior educational L~ack,-rocr.ti to :lr. Siddiqi ;I :,I:-.
2, I crlnz3t find tha< any 51~~czsez fiffereqce in f,;r~,;1 i.l;r;.:.:~
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by the Interview Board. Mrs. Tobin is a graduate of Ontario grade
13 and has completed some courses at the University of Toronto tow-.r
a B.A. She has also completed principal buying courses at Ryerson,
nine of twelve seminars sponsored by the Purchasing Management
Association and Purchasing 1 and 2 courses presented by the Civil
Service Commission.
Both Mr. Casey and Mr. Marshall described Mrs. Tobin's
work performance as above average, methodical, efficient and indic-~
ated that they were more than satisfied with her work.
From the evidence of Mr. Marshall,which I accept, the
interview conducted by the Interview Panel was the determining
factor in the decision to award the position to Mrs. Tobin. it
has already been noted that with the exception of the evidence of
Mrs. Shoup, above referred to, which was not before the Interview
Panel, the Union did not challenge the validity of the test as being
a genuine measure of suitability for the posted position. No issue
was taken with the questions asked or in the way the test was con-
ducted. There was no suggestion of bad faith on the part of the
.Employer.
The test questions, which are found in Exhibit 8. are, att-~
ache.d to this Award. With the exception of questionl.1, all of =he
other questions require an objective answer. The first series of
questions (1.1 to 1:4) deal with "experience in purchasing and supPL
ar.3' ha;ie a maximum value of 20 points. The first question (1.1) is:
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The members of the Interview Dane1 are cautioned to "probe any
experience re clothing or textiles." The answer,' being a "persona::
response" can yield up to eight points. Mr. Siddiqi and Mrs. Tobin
were awarded six of eight points and Mr. Spence was awarded five
ooic'ts. The total scores to the first series of questions was: t:?c,
Incumbent fifteen points, Mr. Siddiqi thirteen points and Mr. Spentc:
thirteen and one half points.
The second series of questions (2.1-2.5), was worth a
maximum of twenty points and ??r. Siddici was awarded sixteen and OX
half Faints, the Incumbent fifteen and one half points and Mr. Spen~c
thirteen po&nts. The third series of questions dealt with, "ability
to analyse, supply information, making judgments and recommendations
from the .analysis." This series of questions was worth a maximum
of thirty points and the Incumbent was awarded twenty-one points,
Mr. Siddiqi fourteen and one half points and Hr. Spence thirteen
and one half points.
The final series of questions (4.1-4.4) were worth a .~ ~~.
maximum 0 f thirty points, dealt with, "personal suitability - proven
communication skills - ability to deal with clients and suppliers
(service concept). The Incumbent was awarded twenty-one points,
Mr. Spence twenty points and Mr. Siddiqi fifteen points. The total
points awarded for all questions were 12.5 ijoints to the Incumbent.
60 points to Mr. Spence and 59 points to Mr. Siddiqi.
There was no suggestion that .the answers to the questior.s
'nere 17.aespro~riate. The significant diz- eFerence betwee?. tb:.E: Ir.c'L?.ZEr.
a n d t .5 e Crie-ors was in the tt-.:rd. series of questions dealLr,c ,dltk.
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aspect of the posted position. viewed in its entirety, the :ncumbc;-:c
was superior to the Grievors in three of the four categories and
was marginally inferior to Mr. Siddiqi in the second series of
questions. In the third series of questions, the Incumbent was
markedly superior to both Grievors and in the fourth series she
was clearly superior to Mr. SCddiqi. The total scores disclose
a clear difference between the candidates. I believe that the
evidence of Mr. Marshall accurately reflects the finding cf the
interview Panel, that while the Grievors and the Incumbent, were
all satisfactory candidates for the position, the test was admin-
istered for the purpose of evaluating their relative suitability
for the position. The test results disclose that Mrs. Tobin dis-
played a clearly superior aptitude for meeting the demands of the
position.
There was some suggestion that Mrs. Tobirr's secondments
had improperly furnished her with experience which would reflect
unfavourably on the Grievors.~ Question 1.1, which deals 'specifically
with the candidates past experience resulted in the Grievors and
the Incumbent being scored almost equally and the nature of the test
was much more concerned with how much tine candidates had learned
Trepared them for the responsibilities of the posted position. i
find that the Interview panel concluded that on the basis of pal)er,
qualificationsthe Grievors and Mrs. Tobin were relatively equal.Thz:
of course, did not end the matter, for that is the reason for the
izter;,iew test: to establish hew the experience sf the canlidates
is refiecteti i.3 t;neir cnderstandi.7~ si the reccire~ents rf the Tczz.:-~
?csition.
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o: the position was relevant, its cogency was so liiriited as tc ha.:r
no s;gnificant affect on the test of completeness. Com?etitioez
are not an exercise in perfection and while this Board would not
be sanguine should there be a significant breach in the reqcirements
of completeness, this is not such a cake. It was acknowledced t:hat
there was no imputation of bad faith nor was it soggested that the
questions on'the test nor the way they were administered created an!'
suqqestion that the test o f completeness was not meant. The zesuli-,s
of the interview test establish a clear superiority in favour of
the Incumbent and the response of the Interview Panel to all of
the evidence before them was not an unreasonable one.
The decision having been made in good faith on the relevant
evidence relating to the issue, there being no evidence that the
tiecision was arrived at relying upon irrelevant evidence, and the
decision being not an :Jnreasonable one, the, grievance is denied.
DA?9 AT London, Ontario
this 25th day of November, 1985. . ,
M. R. Gorsky
Vice-Chairman
"I dissent without written reasons"
H. Simon-s, Member
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1.1.
1.2.(a)
(b)
1.3.
1.4.
EXEISIT 8
You have revrewed the position description - will you please
highlight your past experience that relates to this position.
(Probe any experience re clothing or textiles).
Answer:
Personal response.
In tendering process what percentage is applied for Canadian
Preference purpcses!
Answer:
YOU have 3 suppliers who quote a similar price of 51,000.
Each one has a different Canadian content S value. Describe
the method or process you would apply to adjust these quotes
for competitive comparison purposes.
Answer:
- Take 10: of Cbnadian Content
- Deduct results from,initidl quote
- enter adjusted quote.
If-you were asked to'develop: a product specification far review
by the Senior Supply Officer, what are the steps you would consider
in it's development? .
Answer:
- Establish with major users the needs to be satisfied.
- f<ake reference to various sources for currently available
specifications.
\...
- Contact potential suppliers for disc.ussion and/or submission
of like specifications
- Do comparitive analysis of available specs.
- Refer needs to appropriate consuT:ant or association for specificatic:
- draft dummy specification for Sr. Supply Officer review.
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~ha: manual or manuals would you reference for information on
the purchasing policies and procedures d;f the Ontario Government?
- ::anual o-: &m<nistrarion (Vol. 1)
- ?2nual Cf~ SJPPly.
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2.1. 5. _ . .
2.2.
2.2.
2.4.
2.5.
What fs the General message to the purchasing community of the
current policy on "Price escalation of Government contracts"?
Answer':
Failure of private supplier to meet terms of their current contracts
due to increased costs resulting from inflation should not result
in contract renegotiations - - tendering for a new contract should
be initiated.
Would you please provide your definjtion of a collective purchasing
arrangement?
Answer :
Any government purchasing agreement or formula by which agencies
of the government are collectively, rather than individually, .'
committed to the same source of supply so as to achieve economies
of scale.
: .-
What are the generally recognized forms of a collective purchasing
arrangement?
Answer:
Standing Offer, Standing Agreement..
Whatare the basic differences between a Standing Offer and Standing
Agreement?
Answer:
Standing Offer -
best price(s).
a voluntary proposal from a'supplier outlining the
terms atid'conditS,ons under which a commodity or service
is available. May be used by ministries for competitive evaluation
and supplier selection purposes.
Standing Agreement - a contract arrived at through.the tendering
process - awarded to lowest bidder on a given commodity or service -
meets all requirements of the'competitive purchasing policy.
Kanagement approves the establishment of a Collective Purchasing
Agreement... you are assigned (under the supervision of the Senior
Supply Officer) as the resource to continue wi.th the project.;0 the
tsnderine stage... what further activities/information do you see
as necessary in this development stage?
Answer:
., -. - 7oentitication 0: - a current or establish9ent of 2 new re:e:,ant
co-rnoditv com2n;rt5e;
- de:erminat;on of oilantity requirements ever propcsed effecrive
period of ccn:ract;
-;:
- develop, acquire, ;\ adopt specifications;
- develop appropriate terms and conditions of supply;
- confirm potential user commitments;
- establish source list for tendering purposes;
- have package' reviewed by appropriate individuals and groups
for final approval purposes.
FElLITY TOANALYZE SUPPLY !NiORMAi!Ch AND MAKE JUDGEMENTS AND RECOMMENDATiOt:;
3.1. An invitation tender has gone out to suppliers with a covering
letter, terms and conditions of supply, product specifications and
a Canadian Preference declaration form. The tender is received
and opened in pubiic, however, you are requ,ired to prepare a spread
sheet in order to evaluate the submissions for award purposes.
Prior .to submitting your recommendations for award, what in your
opinion, are the najor'factors to be considered in your evaiuation?
Answer:
- bidder is able to meet OCR has agreed to all stipulated terms
and conditions;
- bidder's product or service meets the specification requirements;
- the.prices are accurately recorded and extended;
.; - Canadian preference percentrage has. been applied to arrive at
at a competitive comparative cost.
3.2. Having reviewed the tender submission you note (from previous
experience with the supplier and/or knowledge of the commodity or
~. service) that an obvious error has been made in the submission of
a particular supplier - e.g. price entry in wrong column, a math-
ematical transposition, a typing error which affects the quotation,
etc.. k/hat action would you take?
Answer:
Discuss the circumstances with the Senior Supply Officer for
determination of action to be taken. It would be helpful tc offer
possibie solutions to the probiem. .
3.3. With reference to the previous question, you note that a supp1ie.r
has obviously forgotten to compelte the Canadian content form since
-,revious submissions by the same s~:ji:er ior the szne ccx~o~it~ CzC
shown a 75: Cavadirn content - what acticn wuid yolk take?
Answer:
I;0 act-on :a be taken - suimjssic?, ricj;c' >? eva:~ate? CD :z:is ;C n3
taga<iar fcntent as ex2reSs51 cn Ca;:<;a; :zn:en: le:lara:!27 'rr7.
,r?y: '/
‘? .? 2.c. you are requested by the Senior Supply Officer to prepare a
,?s recommendation relative to a commodity or service which may have
Collective Purchasing Arrangement potential T titIat activities
and/or information do you feel would be appropriate to the
preliminary resea#* ;-h and reccmendation?
Answer:
- established reasonable knowledge In relevant commodity field
by contact with vendors, users, literature review, etc;.
- determines '* .hrough volume/value analysis if project represents
an effective resource utilization opportunity;
- identifies the type of Collective Purchasing Arrangement appropriate
to the commodity or service.
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3.2. A potential supplier contacts you regaridng cons'$deratidn of his/her
product for eventual pruchase - what steps would you take in considerin!
this request and validati$ the quality and performance claims of the
suppljer? .
Answer:
- Establish that there is a requirement for the product
- Establish if it is distress merchandise or a regularly available
item.
- Obtain samples of the prcduct
- Obtain pertinent literature and/or specifications
- Review quality against appropriate specifications
- Consult available reports on product .~
- Use test
i:;. - Taik to current users
PUPSONAL SUiTA5ILITY
6.1. Verbal communication
Answer:
- review ability over intervtew e.g. clarity, conciseness,
adequacy of response.
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,, ,,: ’ ~1. 4.2. You receive a cal'i from client/user who is extremely upset over
delivery prob?en - how wcuid you handle this situation?
Answer:
- ca!m,;he client down
- obtain fu;l details of the circumstances
- assure the client of imediate follow-up and early response
rc-;r/m the cjrcumstances - ““/,/ through secondary source
- discuss tiith supplier
- written or verbal response to client (copy to supplj'er fjie)
1 - -..'. in the Coiiective Purchasing Program supp'i‘;ers ark rejuired to
~sub.7,ft statements of purchasing activity agajnst their Standing
Offer or sta neing Agreement within a week of tiie month in which
the purchases oc:urred - 2 nii reocrt is alS0 required. uow wculd
YOU, and in what sequence, deal with a supplier who does not subzit
this required statement?
Answer:
Call the supplier - identify the problem
- seek and suggest alternative solutions
Continued lack of response - letter
" recommendation to Senior Supply Officer
4.4. you are asked to visit a client ministry'Purchasinq Officer to
establish why they do not wish to become ,involved 1n a Collective
Agreement purchasing arrangemen t even though they are high users
of the product. .'
Answer: ~
.
L.5. YCZ are.asked to visit a.client ministry Purchasing Officer and
try to convince them to become invoived in a coliective pur:i;asing
arrangement for a product they are heavy users c: . 3escr<be the
+::rsa:k aaC nethcis you wouid use in this meeting.