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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1994-2624.Montgomery et al.95-09-01 DecisionEMPLOYES DE LA COURONNE DEL ONTARIO COMMISSION DE SETTLEMENT REGLEMENT BOARD DES GRIEFS 2100, TORONTO, ONTARID M5G 2100, TORONtO (ONTARIO) M5G z8 TELEPHONE. (4 326- 388 (4 16) 326- 1396 I GSB # 2624/94, 2625/94 I i IN THE MATTER OF AN ARBITRATION OPSEU ## 95C376, 95C418 OPSEU ## 95C376, 95C418 I i IN THE MATTER OF AN ARBITRATION Under THE CROWN EMPLOYEES COLLECTIVE BARGAINING ACT Before THE GRIEVANCE SETTLEMENT BOARD BETWEEN OPSEU (MontgomeryRankin) Grievors and The Crown in Right of Ontario Ministry of Health, Ottawa-Carleton Regional Ambulance Service) Employer BEFORE H. S. Finley Vice-Chairperson D.M. Clark Member J.C. Laniel Member FOR THE; Terry D. McEwan GRIEVORS Counsel Gowling, Strathy & Henderson Barristers & Solicitors David M. Chondon Mathews, Dinsdale & Clark Barristers & Solicitors EMPLO YER Counsel HEARING April 11, 1995 GSB 2624/94, 2625/94 INTERIM DECISION John Montgomery and Blake Rankin, ambulance attendant partners, were dismissed from their positions with the Ottawa/Carleton Regional Ambulance Service on March 7, 1995. It is alleged that on December 14, 1994 they refused or neglected to serve citizens requiring services which are part of the normal performance of [their] duties by delaying, and by failing to complete, an emergency call assigned to [them]. The partners had proceeded to base, having received a call from central dispatch and there is a question as to whether or not that communication was directing them to a particular call. Following this, they were suspended with pay until their dismissal. They had been partners for approximately one year. The Employer held a pre-disciplinary hearing over a three-day period in February 1995. The hearing was chaired by David Hunter, Administrator of the Brockville Psychiatric Hospital. The findings of the pre-disciplinary hearing are not relevant for the purposes of the Interim Relief application, however, the recommendations of Mr. Hunter in relation to the Grievors’ ongoing involvement in the workplace are, in that they illustrate a remedy which an the Administrator of a provincial psychiatric hospital, considered acceptable in the health-care context. He recommended a one-month suspension and reassignment to other partners. On March 7, 1995, the Grievors were dismissed by Mr. Graham Brand, Director of Emergency Health Services, Ministry of Health who is located in Toronto, based on information provided to him and on his assessment that the allegations were correct. One of the aspects of this case which differentiates it from those cited below, is that there are two grievors, with, as one would expect, different personal and financial situations, and, distinctive employment histories and seniority dates. Their grievances arise out of the same situation and the same discipline, and they are seeking the same relief. JURISPRUDENCE The Board was referred to the two decisions of the Grievance Settlement Board in which Grievors have asked for reinstatement: OPSEU (Leeder) and The Crown in Right of Ontario (Ministry of Health}, January 1995, GSB 2498/93, 164/94, 296/94 (Finley) OPSEU (Stewart) and The Crown in Right of Ontario Ministry of the Solicitor General and Correctional Services), May 1995, GSB 1000/94, (Gorsky). In Leeder, the grievor, a Registered Nurse in a provincial psychiatric facility, was dismissed for allegedly failing to discharge the assigned professional duties of a Registered Nurse in relation to charting and treatment of a critically-ill patient assigned to [his] care and.. [that he] slept during portions of both the aforementioned shifts. He was seeking reinstatement, as interim relief. A few months prior to his dismissal he had been subjected to a disciplinary transfer. At the time of his dismissal he had been employed at the hospital for approximately 8 1/2 years. He was married, with two school-aged children. His spouse was employed with a net income of $800.00 every two weeks. Mr. Leeder was in receipt of Unemployment Insurance benefits of $708.00 net, every two weeks. This was a major reduction in income which meant that the family had to make changes to their standard of living and risked the bank foreclosing on their mortgage during the time that the hearing was taking place. The Panel recognized that this Grievor had been financially responsible, had attempted to find other employment and had undertaken training, in spite of the emotional and psychological impact that the financial stress and the question of his professional future was causing him. The Grievor was denied interim relief. The rationale for the denial was the following: A review of the Employer’s situation and the potential harm or inconvenience which the Employer might incur shows several distinguishing features, when considered in relation to the cases cited above. One of the most noteworthy is the presence of “patients” and the concomitant high duty owed by both the Employer and its employees to these individuals. Some of the patients, 2 particularly in the Psycho-geriatric Ward have both physical and psychiatric problems and are unable to articulate their needs and discomforts. Care of others, most markedly in the Forensic Unit, demands the existence of a particularly high level of mutual trust amongst staff. As well, the role of a Registered Nurse at Brockville Psychiatric Hospital involves the supervision of the Practical Nursing Assistants. This supervisory role is delegated by the Employer and involves the trust and confidence of the Employer, those supervised, and the patients. Further, there is the trust placed in the Grievor as a professional by the College of Nurses, and although he still retains his professional status, he is the subject of a pending disciplinary hearing. Therefore his professional standing is under a cloud. Mr. Strang argued that the Grievor’s reinstatement would replace “a dedicated employee by someone who had ignored his duty”. However, it has not been proven that the Grievor “has ignored his duty”. That is still only an allegation. The Employer gave uncontradicted evidence that there were only two nursing positions available at the Hospital which did not involve patient contact, one in Staff Education the other in Nursing Education neither of which, in the Panel’s opinion, would be appropriate placements, under the circumstances. It was also explained to the Panel by Mrs. Peever, that the Hospital did not have adequate staff to assume the special level of supervision which she judged would be required should the Grievor be reinstated on an interim basis. The Panel has weighed the potential harm and inconvenience to the Grievor, Mr. Leeder, and to the Employer, the Brockville Psychiatric Hospital/Ministry of Health and has concluded that the interim reinstatement of Mr. Leeder would be more disruptive to the Employer than the failure to reinstated would be to the Grievor. This, however, does not preclude the Union from seeking interim relief, other than reinstatement, closer to March 1995 when the Grievor’s situation may have become less fluid. In the result, the Grievor’s application for interim relief in the form of reinstatement is denied. It is also the decision of this Board that no other interim relief is appropriate at this time. In Stewart, the Grievor, a Correctional Officer, had been dismissed following an allegation which she denied, that she had Knowingly formed a relationship of a personal nature with an offender which resulted in a conflict of interest and a breach of security,” which action was said to be “in direct contravention of Policy and Procedures AD1 02 05 01 and the duties and obligations [of the Grievor’s] role as a Correctional Officer.” The alleged 3 relationship was said to have “resulted in the endangerment of one inmate, and the inclusion of another inmate in an attempt to transmit personal correspondence of a conflicting nature in a secretive manner.” The Grievor, who had a good record of employment in the almost 10 years she had been with the Ministry, was a mother of one child and the spouse of a self-employed trades person who had operated a losing business for the past three years. The Grievor’s Unemployment Insurance was coming to an end, the family had no benefits, had sold one car but retained the other as they resided in a rural area, were behind in their debts, and had received financial assistance from a family member. She was faced with applying for General Welfare Assistance when her Unemployment Insurance ran out. All of this, had taken an emotional toll on the Grievor and on her relationship with her spouse. The Board went on to find that . . . a position was available for the Grievor which she could perform in the Main Entrance Control (MEC). The evidence also indicated that there was no inmate contact in the case of an employee in the MEC position (Exhibit 10 at the interim hearing); and that In all of the circumstances [the Panel members] were not satisfied that returning the Grievor to work in the MEC position would create a problem for the Employer that could approximate the seriousness of the harm to the Grievor if she is not reinstated. In that case there was no disagreement between the parties that there was an opening in the MEC and that the Grievor could be assigned to and could carry out the duties and responsibilities of that position, and that the Grievor’s position (along with at least one other) [had] not yet been filled. The MEC position is a three-person post with only two CO’s currently scheduled for it. The Board concluded that In all of the circumstances we are not satisfied that returning the Gnevor to work in the MEC position would create a problem for the Employer that could approximate the seriousness of the harm to the Grievor if she is not reinstated. 4 EVIDENCE The Board heard evidence of the situations of each of the grievors and it is necessary to set out some of those persona1 details here. John Montgomery John Montgomery has a seniority date of December 1973. He ranks sixth on the seniority list at the Ottawa-Carleton Regional Ambulance Service (OCRAS). Prior to his employment with OCRAS he had worked as both an ambulance attendant and a nursing orderly. He has been in the Health Care field since 1968. Until the incident referred to above his disciplinary record with OCRAS showed nothing for the past three years. [This should not be read to imply that there was or was not discipline previously. The three years refers to the retention period set out in the Collective Agreement. He has been involved in a number of both work and volunteer activities for which he has received complimentary letters of appreciation. He has not received a performance appraisal from the OCRAS, that he could recall. Throughout his career, he has continued to upgrade his skills through required and non-required courses. Most recently he has been taking courses in the hope of qualifying for a paramedic position, as a paramedic program is being instituted in the Region. Due to his suspension, he was ineligible to apply for the initial placements, and this, he testified was a disappointment to him. Mr. Montgomery has also been involved in teaching in the emergency care program at Algonquin College and in the College’s clinical placement program of which OCRAS is a part. In Almonte, where he resides, he continues to be a member of the local Volunteer Fire Department for which he is paid $6.00 per hour, In conjunction with that, he is also a fire inspector, that is, a local representative of the fire marshall’s office, and a member of and instructor for the Lanark County Rescue Service. Mr. Montgomery has held a part-time position with Almonte Hospital Ambulance Service for several years and is currently working there in a regular part-time capacity. This service was aware of his dismissd by the OCRAS but chose to continue his employment. 5 Mr. Montgomery is forty-five years of age, married with two teen-aged children. His spouse is employed in the banking industry and earns between $30,000 and $35,000 annually. Mr. Montgomery’s earnings from OCRAS in 1994 were in the range of $41,000, from Almonte Hospital Ambulance Service ($1 5.78 per hour) $19,000, from the Volunteer Fire Department $452.00 and from a small photographic business he took in approximately $4,000 (It was not clear if this was gross or net, although Mr. Montgomery did testify that he could no longer afford to carry on this business and therefore one is led to conclude that the figure was gross, that is before expenses and that the business did not show a profit) In 1994, their gross family income was, therefore, $95,452.00, or approximately $7,953.00 gross per month which would be reduced considerably by income tax. Their current income varies: Mr. Montgomery’s spouse receives a maximum of $2916 gross. Mr. Montgomery receives a minimum gross income of $573. Per month which can be topped up by Unemployment Insurance to the maximum which would be approximately $1 522 per month. The Montgomerys have the following assets: House valued at (approximately) $160,000 RRSPS (His) $ 19,000 RRSPS (Hers) $ 5,000 Two vehicles ?? Their liabilities are: Mortgage $22,000 Car and consolidation loan $20,000 Credit card $ 2,200 Overdraft $ 2,300 Charge cards (paying interest only) $ ?? Personal loan $ 1,100 Legal expenses for pre-disciplinary $ ?? hearing) 6 Their fixed major monthly expenses are: Mortgage (pit) $ 585. Utilities $ 150. Benefits retention $ 162. Car loan payment $ 276. Credit card interest $ ?? . We did not receive evidence of other expenses. This does not include, food, clothing or activities for four individuals, maintenance, fuel or transportation for the cars, or basic maintenance or insurance for the house. Child care is not an expense. Mr. Montgomery has applied for one job citing the shifts at his regular part-time employment with the Almonte Hospital Ambulance Service as a factor inhibiting him from applying more widely. He has not consulted anyone as to financial possibilities but pointed out that his RRSPs were only taken out the previous year as part of an insurance plan into which he had paid for twenty-three years, the length of time he and his spouse have been married. He believes that they will suffer a tax penalty should he withdraw them. Further, it is his opinion that if he is not reinstated, they will find it necessary to sell the house and one of their cars. Mr. Montgomery is committed to his career as an ambulance attendant and hopes to have the opportunity of serving as a paramedic in future BIake Rankin Blake Rankin had been employed with the ORCAS since 1983. This followed his graduation from the Ambulance and Emergency Care program at Algonquin College. He worked that year as a part-time ambulance attendant and then came on full-time in 1984. He has a seniority date of July, 1984. Prior to that, Mr. Rankin had worked as a driver for UPS, as a participant in the Katimavik social and community programs, as a teacher/labourer with Frontier College, as a sales clerk at Canadian Tire, and prior to that as a member of the Governor General’s Foot Guards, as a Supply Technician in the Middle East and as a Corporal /Section leader. Throughout his career as an ambulance attendant he has continue to upgrade his skills and knowledge in the field. Some of this professional development has been a requirement, some he 7 has taken for personal interest and advancement, in particular to advance to a position as a para- medic. He was, however, rendered ineligible for the initial group, given that he was suspended at the time. Mr. Rankin has been working as an ambulance attendant for 12 years and testified that during that time he has never been subject to discipline by the Employer. Mr. Rankin is 39 years old, married for the past 6 years, and has two daughters who would recently have begun elementary school. During the past few years, he has become a member of the Russell Volunteer Fire Department where he has the added responsibility of being part of the initial response team. As well, he volunteers as a front-line “peer debriefer” for emergency response team members who may experience post traumatic stress. He has also served as a proctor in the Algonquin clinical placement program with OCRAS and gives training in first aid. He recently taught a course in Cardio-pulmonary Resuscitation (CPR) to the professional and support staff of a dental office in the village where he resides. After paying for the training and materials, he earned $50.00 for this. However, he hopes to develop some training opportunities so that he does it more frequently and, without the expenses, it could then be more remunerative. The Rankin family resides in Russell, Ontario. Mr. Rankin’s spouse is employed part-time at the Children’s Hospital of Eastern Ontario as a casual employee, and annually earns approximately $20,000, or $1,600 a month gross. Her usual employment is 2 days per week, but she now has 2 extra regular days weekly due to a maternity replacement. If she gets the fifth day, that is a bonus. $40,000 or $3200. Monthly, gross. Since Mr. Rankin was dismissed, he has received Unemployment Insurance benefits of $1540, net per month and $100.00 from the Russell Fire Department which may be deducted from his Unemployment Insurance. When Mr. Rankin was working at OCRAS he was earning approximately The Rankins have the following assets: House Cars (2) Pensions (locked in) $ 123.000. $ ?? $ ?? 8 They have the following liabilities: Mortgage July 1, 1995 Personal Loan Credit Card Charge card Personal loan (family) (@ 5%) ($3,000 since dismissal) They have the following fixed monthly expenses: Property Taxes Personal loan Benefit premium Insurance (Life, cars house) Credit card Charge card Utilities Personal loan repayment $ 88,371 $ 6,500 $ 2,050. $ 575. $ 15,000 166. 245. 162. 178. Minimum payment Minimum payment 175 0 currently This does not include food, clothing or activities for four individuals, fuel or maintenance for the cars or basic maintenance for the house. There are no child care costs at this present time since Mr, Rankin is not employed. However, should he find employment, then child care would become an expense. Mr. Rankin has found both the suspension and the dismissal demoralizing. He perceives that they have caused him to lose face in the eyes of his friends and fellow employees. In spite of the fact that he has tried to be active and has increased responsibilities for child care, he has, nonetheless, found that the past months have been a depressing and stressful time for him and for his family, to the point that they have sought counselling to assist them through this period. Mr. Rankin has sent out a number of resumes in the wider Ottawa area, and when he had an opportunity to travel to Nova Scotia, he looked into the job market in his field but discovered that they were not hiring. He does not believe that it would be worth his while to apply to 9 ministry-run ambulance services even though his provincial number has not been pulled. He has been hired on a call-in list for a home care service and was going on the day following the hearing to work for them for two hours. He calls in to confirm his availability each week. The rate is $6.50 per hour. It is Mr. Rankin’s belief that should he not be reinstated that he and his spouse will have to consider selling their home. Mr. Rankin testified that he is committed to his work as an ambulance attendant and hopes to have the opportunity of serving as a paramedic in future Lyle Massender Nr. Massender is the Manager of OCRAS, a position which he has held for the past 10 years. He has, in total, 29 years experience in the field. Mr. Massender was away at the time of the alleged incident and did not attend the pre-disciplinary hearing. He stated that he would have concerns about the reinstatement of the two Grievors based on the serious allegation and on the possibility that the conduct of which they are accused may occur again. He had, he testified, because of the severity of the allegations, a concern regarding potential risk to public safety, and the possibility of liability and consequent legal action over the failure to provide service in case of a recurrence and the impact on the operations of OCRAS and the morale of staff. Mr. Massender testified that while there was no non-patient contact position available or appropriate for the Grievors, the Grievors’ positions were currently being filled by contract employees and that there was no impediment from that perspective to returning them to their positions. Mr. Massender acknowledged that the complaint which instigated the investigation was not a complaint from a member of the public but was from the dispatcher who had a role to play in the incident and who had not been disciplined. He agreed that the member of the public on whose behalf the call was made was not endangered because of the response time of the ambulance and that no civil suit or claim had been made against OCRAS as a result of the incident. He testified in cross examination that he had known Mr. Montgomery in the work setting for twenty years and Mr. Rankin for twelve and had observed them to be competent and diligent officers. He was, he stated, aware that Mr. Montgomery had continued to function as an ambulance attendant at the Almonte Hospital Ambulance Service. Mr. Massender indicated in his 10 testimony that he could appreciate the practical and emotional impact that the dismissals were having on the Grievors. Mr. Massender was asked what his response would be if the Board were to order reinstatement and he acknowledged that “we would have to honour it”, but, that he would consult with Human Resources to avoid having them in the workplace and to continue paying them. ARGUMENT The parties agree that there is no issue with respect to jurisdiction, that the first test of the existence of an arguable case has been met, and the second test is the balance of potential harm to the parties. The Union Terry McEwan, Counsel for the Union, submitted that the second test is a test of potential harm and that evidence of actual harm is not necessary, that it is sufficient if there is an inference. This makes, he commented, eminent good sense because it can prevent the occurrence of damage which may not be compensable by the recompense of full back pay. In weighing the balance of potential harm to the Employer and to the Employee, the economic circumstances of the Employee are proper subjects for consideration. It is sufficient, he maintained for the Board to find that the Grievors have suffered a financial loss resulting in difficulty or potential harm and it is not, necessaria to find that the degree of that harm or loss has been severe. He acknowledges that the figures are not complete, but points out that it is uncontradicted that the jobs of the two Grievors provide more than 1/2 the family income and that the current incomes do not meet the family expenses. While Mr. Montgomery’s financial situation is not as dire as Mr. Rankin’s, it is, nonetheless real and sufficient for the purposes of the Board. There is, Mr. McEwan stated, a potential for emotional and mental harm which is not compensated for in the typical award. 11 Mr. Montgomery and Mr. Ranlun are, Mr. McEwan submitted, highly trained and dedicated men whose commitment goes beyond the ambulance service and into their communities, They are, at present, denied the opportunity of carrying on work both do well and from which they derive a great deal of personal satisfaction. Their evidence of other work negates, Mr. McEwan argued, the speculation of danger alluded to by the Employer. We are not, he submitted, dealing in the criminal justice system in which persons are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Rather, in a dismissal situation, the onus is on the Employer to prove the grounds for dismissal and this is analogous to “innocent to be proven guilty”; and. these are no more than allegations and the balance in this case must weigh in favour of the Employees. Mr. McEwan the looked at the issue of reinstatement from the Employer’s side and submitted that there is no evidence of prejudice to the Employer, that the positions of the Grievors are open and that there would be no dislocation of permanent staff by returning them to their positions. There has been no complaint regarding Mr. Montgomery from the Almonte Hospital Ambulance Service and both Mr. Montgomery and Mr. Rankin continue to function as volunteer fire fighters, a similar position with to service to the public. The risk of recurrence is, he maintained, “slight to the point of being infinitesimal”. This is not a case in which those who are seeking reinstatement would be off on their own . They can be supervised and their actions recorded, as is every communication between the ambulance drivers and dispatchers as a matter of normal practice. In this regard, the instant case is distinguishable from Leeder. Should something untoward occur during the time they are reinstated, the Employer could, following that, seek further interim relief from the Board. Mr. McEwan concluded that on balance there would be no harm to the Employer and considerable harm to the Grievors who, at the time of the application for Interim Relief, had been off work for four months. He asked the Board for an order which specified that the Grievors are to be reinstated to the workplace, and not simply paid and told to stay home. This is not, Mr. McEwan stated, simply about money. 12 The Employer David Chondon, Counsel for the Employer, submitted that the context of this case, is the public sector and the nature of the position in the public sector is significant. This is, he argued, a case of positions involving direct contact with members of the public and service to them. It has been agreed, he maintained, that the purpose of an ambulance service is to provide transportation and medical care to the sick and injured, and to provide it in a swift and capable manner. The OCRAS is responsible for serving the public in emergency situations and David Hunter, who conducted the pre-disciplinary hearing was concerned about the diligence of the two Grievors based on the evidence about the incident. Mr. Chondon, disagrees with Mr. McEwan regarding the presumption of innocence and referred the Board to Leeder, at page 29: Until recently, when employees subject to the Collective Agreement between Management Board of Cabinet and the Ontario Public Service Employees Union were dismissed from employment, they alone bore the burden of inconvenience pending the outcome of the hearing. The power of the Board to grant interim relief, in the form of reinstatement or other appropriate remedy, has changed that. It has not, however, simply shifted the interim burden from employees to employers. Nor has it resulted in a presumption that the employee will be reinstated unless the employer proves why this should not occur. The context of the allegations was a high priority response to an emergency involving a small child. It is the balance of potential harm to both employer and employee which must be looked at, and the employee must show that the harm he or she is suffering is beyond that which generally occurs when someone is terminated. The employee must demonstrate more than loss of reputation, negative impact on one’s family and one’s relationships, and on one’s financial situation, according to Mr. Chondon. In this case, the Grievors have failed to do so, Counsel for the Employer submitted, and he commented that, “their continuing public duty suggests they are leading pretty fulfilling lives in terms of their calling and their desire to serve the public”. They have not, he maintained, established anything beyond normal upset in terms of their individual situations. Therefore, the Board is left, he maintained with a purely financial situation to deal with and on that basis, the application is premature suggesting that the financial harm is not real 13 enough to warrant reinstatement at this time. Leeder suggests that if the case drags on, then the the Grievors could reapply to the Board for interim relief. Further, the fact that other employers choose to hire or to continue to employ these individuals, is not the concern of the Ministry of Health. Its concern is limited to the Ministry itself. When one considers the financial situations of each of the Grievors one does not find a picture of financial strain, harm or crisis. Mr. Chondon disputes that the Montgomery family is presently reduced to half of its pre-dismissal income and maintains that it currently has a family income in the range of $50,000. to $60,000 and the family income has not dropped significantly. While Mr. Chondon recognizes that Mr. Rankin’s financial situation is more serious than Mr. Montgomery’s, he argues that it has still not reached the stage which would warrant the intervention of the Board in the form of interim relief Their joint income allows them to meet their expenses, his, the major monthly expenses, and hers the ongoing, daily expenses. The fact one cannot afford a vacation with one’s family, does not constitute a financial crisis for that family, he argued. Mi-. Chondon submitted that the situation of neither Grievor approached the situation in Stewart, and he likened Mr. Rankin’s to that of Mr. Leeder, in that case. The single crisis which is looming is that Mi. Rankin may have to give up one of his cars by the end of August, 1995. Further, in the case of Mr. Montgomery, he has not, with his single job application, met the obligation to mitigate set out at page 7 of the Stewart decision. The potential harm to the Employer is based on the severity of the allegations, allegations which the Employer believes are true, in the face of the duty of care owed to the public by the OCRAS. The level of supervision suggested by Counsel for the Union, is not available or feasible and a recurrence could have serious consequences for the public and the Employer. These Grievors can, Mr. Chondon submitted, be adequately compensated at the end of the day, Nothing is preventing a future application for interim relief when their financial situations are more serious. Should the Board order reinstatement, the Employer would, as he stated, honour its order, but would seek a way to do so to avoid having them on the road. Mi. Chondon committed to work with Counsel for the Union to develop an agreed statement of facts in order to reduce the number 14 of witnesses that would need to be called. Mr. Chondon submitted that there has been delay in this case, and that some attempt should have been made to seek relief prior to the hearing on the matter, however, he acknowledges that the issue of interim relief does not turn on that. The Union The balance of potential harm between employee and employer, according to Leeder, at pages 29 and 30, requires that there be evidence of potential harm, and in this case, Mr. McEwan argued, the Employer has not come forward with anything other than Mr. Massender’s list of “unarticulated concerns”. The Employer, Mr. McEwan submitted, wants to argue that the fact these allegations are serious should supersede everything. The pre-disciplinary hearing found that there was a communications problem and the Employer chose to take no disciplinary action against the dispatcher who was involved. This was not the result of a complaint from the public. Mr. McEwan referred the Board to Stewart at page 6, Item 10, in which the issue of safety is addressed: Where issues of safety are raised on an application for interim relief, “There should be evidence before the Board which would lead the Board to believe that there is a risk of unsafe conduct OCCURR ing should the employee be reinstated for the interim period pending the disposition of the main application.” See Uni ited Food and Comme rcial Wo rkers’ Internat’ ional Uni ’on v. Shirlon Plast ics Inc. (OLRB) (Shouldice), dated August 8, 1994, referred to at pp. 18-19 of Leeder, were emphasis was added. There is nothing here, Mr. McEwan maintained, to suggest any unsafe condition. This alleged conduct is a complete aberration in the context of the work history and volunteer history of these two individuals. One has to ask, he commented, why men of this dedication and experience would throw away their careers. The test of potential harm to employees, is not one which requires people to lose houses, go on General Welfare Assistance or lose their savings to get relief, and no relief is to be found in speeding up the hearing. I5 DECISION The Board has considered the evidence and argument presented concerning the Grievors, Mr. Montgomery and Mr. Rankin, and the Employer, the Ottawa-Carleton Regional Ambulance Service. It has reviewed this evidence in the context of the Grievance Settlement Board jurisprudence involving the interim relief of reinstatement, one in which the reinstatement was denied (Leeder) and one in which reinstatement was granted (Stewart). Both of these cases are in the public service, and both deal with employee/client contact. In that respect they are similar to the case at hand. Further, in all three cases, a duty of care is owed to that client and in each, the allegations, are serious, and call into question the professionalism of the Grievors. In the case at hand, the financial situations are not dire, as in the case of Stewart, and speaking in general terms, it could be said that Mr. Rankin’s financial situation is similar to the situation in Leeder, while Mr. Montgomery’s is better. The balance weighed in Ms. Stewart’s favour primarily because of the ongoing financial crisis and imminent financial ruin. The other factor was that the Employer had a non-client contact position available into which she could be placed. The potential dissatisfaction of other staff was considered a matter for the Employer to deal with in a positive and proactive way. The balance did not weigh in Mr. Leeder’s favour because he functioned as the only charge nurse on the ward, with direct responsibilities for the physical and mental care of a number of patients and for supervising a single individual of a lesser professional rank. As well, his professional status was in limbo at the time of the hearing on the interim relief matter and the Employer’s evidence was, that, particularly with the downsizing and staff cut backs being experienced in the provincial psychiatric hospitals, it did not have a non-contact position into which he could be placed, nor was it possible to provide an acceptable level of supervision. decision that, had his financial situation been worse, he would have been reinstated at the time the request was made, or even at a later time should a further request have been put forth. In fact, the suggestion that he might return for interim relief should his financial situation worsen precluded an application for reinstatement. It was not suggested, in the 16 There is a danger that these two cases will be seen as benchmarks for the degree of seriousness, or severity which needs to be reached before interim relief can be granted or denied, or the conclusion that Stewart stands for the proposition that one should not be reinstated unless the proverbial wolf is at the door. However, it is all the relevant circumstances faced by both the employee and the employer, considered as a whole, and in conjunction with each other which will determine the balance. For instance, if the employer can show no potential harm, and the Grievor’s financial position has changed as a result of the dismissal but he or she is in no financial jeopardy, it may well be that, other circumstances considered, the balance may swing in favour of the employee. Further, to have imminent financial ruin a prerequisite for interim relief is problematic in that it rewards the employee who has not been a good financial manager, or who has simply been unlucky in the matter of finances, or who is early in his or her career and has built up no assets. The other side of the coin is that it works against the employee who has been a good financial manager and accumulated savings, who may have taken on extra work and made sacrifices to attain and maintain a comfortable standard of living and who may be further along in his or her career, even one who may be approaching retirement. The degree of financial stress also comes into the question of delay, since the longer one delays, the more financially stressed one would normally find oneself So when it is argued, at the same time, that an application has been delayed, and the financial situation of the applicant has not deteriorated sufficiently for that person to be eligible for interim relief, there is a certain inconsistency. The Board does not accept that a Grievor must be in desperate financial straits, or deplete his or her assets and/or savings in order to be eligible for interim relief based on other circumstances. The circumstances in the situation at hand are the following: 0 The Grievors are employees of long-standing - 21 1/2 years and 11 years; e There was no evidence of a disciplinary history; The Employer acknowledged that they were competent and diligent officers who had performed their duties in a satisfactory manner, except in the event that the allegation should prove true; 17 The Grievors have retained their provincial ambulance attendants’ number; Both Grievors have continued to function in the public service and health care fields Mr. Montgomery has had increased hours at his part time ambulance attendant position Mr. Rankin has sought other work and has been hired on in the health care field at minimum wage, if and when he gets called. He has also taken on an increased responsibility for child care; Both individuals believe they have suffered loss of reputation and opportunity; The allegations are not part of a pattern of behaviour but appear to be inconsistent with the pattern of behaviour which is typical for these two individuals; There is no evidence of financial irresponsibility on the part of either; Their positions have not been filled; Reinstatement would not involve the displacement of permanent staff, There was no evidence of specific morale problems; The Chair of the Pre-disciplinary Hearing is the Administrator, although not the chief medical professional of a provincial psychiatric hospital. He is charged with seeing that patient care is carried out and patients are not placed at risk; The recommendation of the Chair of the Pre-disciplinary Hearing was that the two individuals in question be reinstated following a suspension of a month, a period of time which they had already served at the time of the Predisciplinary Hearing, which would have meant that, had his recommendation been followed, they would have been reinstated immediately. The Board has weighed the above reasons in the context of the balance of potential harm and has determined the potential harm to the Grievors outweighs the potential harm to the Employer and that this is an appropriate case for reinstatement. It believes that the recommendation of the Chair of the Predisciplinary Hearing that the Grievors be assigned to work with partners other than each other would be in the interests of all concerned. Further, the Panel recognizes that certain changes will need to be made to scheduling in the work place and that this may require some time, It is therefore ordering that the Grievors be reinstated and placed on the 18 regular schedule as of September 1, 1995 It is important that reinstatement not be viewed as a means of extending the duration of the time period over which the hearing takes place. The hearing will proceed on August 30, 1995 and will continue on dates prior to December 3 1 , 1995 which are to be set no later than August 30, 1995. Dated at Kingston D.M. Clark, Member Dissent to follow J.C. Laniel, Member 19